Gold lion 12ax7 vs telefunken Nov 29, 2015 · Original Genalex KT88 vs Reissue gold lion? bryans12v; May 31, 2019; Tube Audio; Replies 9 Do I have a defective Gold Lion 12AX7? HiFiGuy528; Apr 19, 2011; Tube Jan 1, 2016 · Having said that, I can state without reservation that, to my ears, three tubes stood out time and again: the Gold Lion KT77, the Shuguang Treasure series black bottle 6CA7-Z, and the new production Tung Sol EL34B. (Mullard long plates, Telefunken smooth plates). Telefunken ECC803S，市價約 20 - 25 K。 Telefunken 的 12AX7 有極佳的平衡及解析， 而且不像其他 Telefunken 的管子有特殊，或過多的甜味。 但 ECC803S 也漲過頭了，ECC83 (或為其品牌代工的 12AX7) 是比較合理的選擇。 3. I reinstalled my JJs (ECC803s gold pin and EL84) after trying the reissue Telefunkens. The Black Diamond Series ECC82-TK features gold-plated pins and a gold-plated internal grid. A nice upgrade, for the money, but as @noromance inferred, I then replaced those with four old Telefunken smooth plates, and albeit being similar in tone, the Tele's were much smoother and really superior in all ways. All are black plates. Mullards from upscale audio were excellent tubes and quite similar to the Jj803s. Tung Sol (new production) 12ax7, 12at7= Detailed without being bright, dynamic, great for rock and roll. sony6060; Sep 9, 2013; Tube Audio Feb 9, 2014 · マッキントシュMC275用初段管12AX7を同時に色々と購入した。すべてeBayより。球の紹介とエージング前の音の印象を簡単に書きます。なお、音の印象はエージングが進むと、また変わると思うので参考程度です。まずはVintage管と言われるもの。①Tesla製ECC803S(チェコソロバキア)NOS$79. Jul 24, 2018 · The jj803s gold pins are very similar to the 83s, but the high end of the 803s are more refined and slightly less congested. 2 Jahren mal gebraucht erworben und ich bin jetzt am überlegen mal ein wenig Tube Rolling zu betreiben (soll ja auch nicht langweilig werden . Compared to original 'VANE T-II series, the new Art series has the top end brightness tamed down, still plenty of detail, much more organic midrange, similar bass performance. 12AU7 * * * * The 12AU7 sounds like a 12AX7 but produces a lot less gain in the preamp circuit. Siemens E83CC，市價約 15 - 20 K。 Dec 9, 2011 · However, two versions existed including the tall & short plate. In my Jolida amp my favorites are the JJ 5751 tubes, and Ruby 12AX7AC7 HG+ aka TAD 7025-S and Preferred Series 7025. One seller I like has referenced they have different grades "Gold/Platinum" of the 12AX7 , lower noise shelf , microphonics etc. Dec 14, 2018 · Mullard 12AX7 long plate are good in the preamp and a warm phono tube is RCA 12AX7 long plate. https://www. Mullard 12ax7 short plate- Less warm and sometimes even more dynamic-I61 esp. Gold Lion ECC83 / B759 - Yet another great tube from Russia and another in the line of large plate dual triodes. paul172 January 28, 2021, you try the Telefunken 12au7 or 12au7 triple mica Ecc 802… 1 Like. 7025 * * * * The 7025 has a higher gain than a 12AX7 tube. You will get with a recorded violin the whole gestalt of the instrument – every nuance of it was there with the Telefunken ECC83 while the Gold Lion made it more Jul 23, 2021 · Two tubes that sound great. As I Originally, the 12AX7 / ECC83 vacuum tube was introduced to be a superior option for lower noise and microphonics over the 6SL7 tube that was commonly used in the 1940s. Sep 21, 2020 · Hello all - I’ve been searching for a new set of tubes for my Manley Snappers and have decided to go with the Gold Lion KT77s & 12AX7 . Jul 27, 2014 · With a tube phono I really like the Sovtek 12AX7LPS tubes and the newer Mullard CV4004/12AX7 tubes. I like the darker sounding Mullard that I had in it, but don't want to spend $80 for a tube. The Gold Lion after run in was similar in sound to the Mullards but not as colored/warm as the Mullards. Despite the nominal lower gain it is the single most powerful and dynamic "12AX7" I have ever heard. I used to prefer 6550 way back when. One of my favorites. With a Jolida Tube DAC 2 I really liked the Genelex Gold Lion 12AX7 tubes. Telefunken tubes have a diamond shape molded into the glass on the bottom center of the tube. All slightly different. May 22, 2014 · The Golden Lion from Russia sounded and looked identical inside to the Russian 12AX7LPS. Original Genalex Gold Lion ECC83/B759/12AX7 tubes are considered among the best 12AX7 tube types ever made. Dec 28, 2014 · As the title says, how do the Gold Lion 12ax7 and Sovtek 12ax7LPS compare in a phono preamp? I have a Hagerman Cornet 2 with Sovtek 12ax7's in the 1 and 2 spots and an Amperex 12au7 in #3. All new TELEFUNKEN tubes are cryogenically treated to ensure durability, and subjected to an extended burn-in period to ensure superior stability. I have not tried the Gold Lion ECC83 or B759* or Svetlana 12AX7. Mar 13, 2003 · Gold lion's 12AX7 is as famous as telefunken Ecc803s. Mar 3, 2005 · out of the current production the Gold Lion 12AX7's sound significantly better than any of the other brands I've tried (JJ, Tung Sol, new production Mullard, Electro Harmonix, Sovtek). Sylvania 5751 black plate. Was thinking of replacing the Sovteks with Gold Lions. By my count we have the Sovtek 5751, Sovtek 12AX7 LPS, Mullard and now the Gold Lion brand. Oct 30, 2020 · The tubes include NOS Amperex PQ's, NOS Silvania Gold Brand, NOS Telefunken Smooth and Ribbed plates, NOS RCA Clear tops and the now unobtanium NOS 1963 GE long plates. Only one amp thus far sounded better with vintage 12AX7s – the GEs in my Scott 299C. I bought the a gold Lion tubes from Upscale. But the GE 7025 cost less than 30% the price of 12AX7 Telefunken. Telefunken is best,folloewd my Amperex bugle boy,and mullard m1837 . Jul 9, 2022 · 12AX7 Telefunken have some distortion that is totally lacking in the 7025 (12AX7) GE. Petersburg (Winged "C"/SED) tried to develop a good 12AX7 and mostly failed. If anyone is interested in them, send me a PM. The reissue Genalex Gold Lion ECC82/B749 features gold plated pins and has been carefully engineered to recreate all of the attributes of the original. Developed by RCA and released in September of 1947, the 12AX7 is a high gain / low noise tube that is the most popular tube used in input / inter-stage audio amplifiers. I preferred the 2 that gave the warmest sound to me. 2) Mazda 5751 chrome plates. com Dec 26, 2019 · The new production Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7 / ECC83 / B759 gold-pin tubes (Russia) always sounded excellent, in every position, and were the best sounding tube in the AF-amp positions of my McIntosh MC240, MC30s, and Fisher X-1000. NOS GE is about $40 each. Feb 9, 2015 · I was surfing the web for KT88's and I saw there is a new production series of Telefunken tubes called Black Diamond. I ordered the Mazda from Belgium years ago. RFT. But still a great tube, I replaced them mid year of 2015 with a pair of New Production Gold Lions. Sep 24, 2013 · Well, even though they both were made by Telefunken W. I've been running tube gear since the early '70s and still get lost in some of the details, though a tube like the Tele 12ax7 has been almost a constant for me- my ARC SP-3-a-1 used that tube type- back in the day, you could get true never used old stock for 10 bucks a tube. cyto; Dec 27, 2014; Review Gold Lion vs Telefunken vs Sovtek 12AX7LPS. I had one of the Gold Lion 12AX7's go south earlier than I would like. A tube I thought is better than the 3rd place Mullard 12AX7 round plate are the Raytheon 5751 windmill getter. The Gold Lion and Shuguang are so good I am uncomfortable declaring an outright winner so I have awarded them a tie for 1st place. This tube featured superb linearity, balanced sections, and extremely low noise. My three favorites are the Raytheon black plate, Telefunken smooth plate, probably the most balanced linear and neutral of the bunch without losing any details, and the Amperex BB. Others that I own and have used are NEW JJ, tung sol, Northern Lights, NOS 50's RCA Blackplates, Telefunken, Philips minwatt, amprex Bugle boy. 7. The Telefunken have slightly more glare & less warmth vs the Mullard and RCA. Keep in mind though that the 12AU7 is going to effect things too- whatever you hear from the 12AX7 will be passing through the 12AU7. Sep 9, 2013 · Well I've used the Gold Lion 12ax7 reissue as well as the Mullards reissues. It’s quite attractive with the gold pins and very nice gold screening on the bottle. Feb 6, 2018 · I tried the reissue 12AX7/ECC83-TK and EL84 a couple of years ago. I'd like your experience with Gelenlex Gold Lion, TungSol, Mullard, Telefunken, or?, etc. bet it will be positive right now I'm using Sovtek 12AX7LPS in the first stage,, EH 12AU7's in the phase splitter, and a NOS sylvania 12AU7 for the preamp. Feb 18, 2011 · I did receive the Gold Lion reissue 12ax7's and put 3 of them in the line stage of my ARC SP16 - the previous tubes were cheap New Sensor (Russian) Svetlana reissues (very similar looking to the New Sensor made EH and Tungsol 12ax7's). 12AY7 * * * * The 12AY7 sounds warmer with more bottom end to it than a 12AX7. RCA 12AT7 is about as good as it gets. The TELEFUNKEN ECC83-TK is a well-balanced tube suited for all types of music & styles. These tubes have really surprised me with their great sound. Feb 5, 2018 · For some reason a Telefunken 12AX7 ribbed plate sounds better in a Pioneer SX-34. The Ei Yugoslavia and Gold Lion appeared to alter the sound/make it less neutral sounding/more warm sounding and I preferred that over the Baldwins and RCA Cleartop in the various setups I tried. Germany. Jun 1, 2014 · Pictured is the new TELEFUNKEN Black Diamond ECC83-TK tube, a modern version of the 12AX7, originally developed in 1947. To my ears ,the gold lion ,and the jj gold pin 12ax7 were better. Apr 25, 2018 · The dynamic abilities of both tubes were more than obvious – the Gold lion compressed the midband from 350hz – 1,5khz while the Telefunken sounded completely open in this range. After 2. I have an ANOS Telefunken 12AX7 for comparison. YMMV. Die habe ich vor ca. The two tubes you ask about sound quite different. A quick glance and you might think they were all the same but careful inspection reveals physical differences in construction and plate coatings. All three of these tubes is virtually identical. So if you're rolling tubes, this is the place to start. My Croft only uses one,12ax7,ecc83,so been able to roll a lot of new,and old nos tubes. However I will be repeating what is constantly dinned into our years over time , you need to use the tubes you are interested in, in 'your' system to make a valid comparison. They were rated “uncle Kevin’s personal stash”. Very fat ,crunchy, creamy & louder compared to the Mazda ECC83. the stock tubes in this unit were noisy, sounded flat and got distorted to quickly when the gain was turned up. Overall, these 12AX7 preamp tubes are all great performer. The original Genalex Gold Lion ECC82/B749 is one of the rarest 12AU7 types ever made. Apr 6, 2015 · Mazda 12AX7 Chrome plates triple or double mica - lots of energy, no other 12AX7 comes close in overall tone 3D imaging with solid bass . In a less than best or stock vintage tube amp the Telefunken sound ok. The Gold Lions are a bit pricey so I thought I would get a few opinions. The best if there is a best. Feb 16, 2024 · In the end your wallet will be lighter, and the overall improvement compared the newer Russian made Genalex Gold Lion Gold Pin B759/ECC83/12AX7's will be a disappointment. Sylvania made a 6201 in their Gold Brand line, and it came in the distinctive gold box, had gold lettering on the glass, and most (but not all!) had gold plated pins. ECC83: This is the identical European equivalent of the 12AX7. Good tube with a distinctively different character than the various 12AX7’s as a group. Low gain. Seller stated Telefunken 803s are not as good at $1K+ each. ECC83 tubes manufactured by Mullard, Telefunken, Amperex and Siemens are sought after. It provides good definition, fast attack, extended high frequency response, and full harmonic content. Jan 28, 2021 · However, I only bought Gold Lion 12AU7, which transformed my listening. It is commonly used as a low-noise line amplifier, driver, and phase inverter in push-pull amplifier circuits, and can replace an ECC81/12AX7 for lower gain applications. Amperex (Holland) being my long-term favourite, but quite like the 5814s, Gold Lyon RI and the 6189s. I got the new Gold Lion's and really liked them. 99 each. Apr 26, 2012 · 12AT7 * * * * The 12AT7 is a clearer sounding tube than a 12AX7 but with a little less gain. However, Telefunken made a lot of different tubes. The newer Genalex tubes coming out of the American owned Electro-Harmonix/New Sensor ExpoPul facility in Saratov, Russia manufacturers 2/3d's of the world's supply of tubes. A 5751 tube is compatible in a 12AX7 spot, it just has slightly lower gain for reduced noise and microphonics. To my ears, they have this "metallic" quality to them. Dec 7, 2020 · Greetings everyone, please point me to previous threads if this has already been covered. GE 12AX7/7025 short plate. Amperex made a very nice PQ version of the 6201 with gold pins. Amperex Bugle Boy. Aug 23, 2021 · I've also been contemplating trying out the Gold Lion 12ax7 and 12au7 Gold Pin tubes, but as you mentioned they're a bit pricier and I'm not sure if they'd make enough of an improvement on the E83CC Frame Grid (12ax7) and ECC802S (12au7) JJ's I have currently have in my amp to be worth the higher price. . I also like the Gold Lion in the V1 position of my MC275, and for the phase inverter for my Altec 353A. So I did what most of us do: spent twice as much on multiple tubes. Mullard CV4004/12AX7 - Not quite as toneful as the 12AX7/ECC83, but still nice. As well it offered more gain. It made my amp come alive again . Sep 5, 2023 · I have four Gold Lion 12ax7 gold pins in storage, they were the first I switched to over the stock tubes in my phono pre. JJ ECC83s / 12AX7 Preamp Vacuum Tube Gold Lion; Groove Tubes; JJ Electronic; Mojotone; Mullard; Psvane; Sino Chinese; Sovtek; TAD - Tube Amp Doctor; Telefunken Mar 14, 2009 · Currently my power amp, CJ Premier 11A output tubes are cryo'd new issue Genalex Gold Lion KT88s with NOS Mazda 6FQ78 and GE 5751s, and NOS Telefunken 12AX7 in the phono stage. I am using the low-input, of the Top Boost channel of a Another video on tube sound comparison, this time I'm comparing Telefunken with Ei Yugoslavia. Tube Type: Microphonics: Noise(Hiss, Pop, Hum) Musical Detail and Dynamics: Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH: 5: 3: 4: Gold Lion ECC83 / B759: 4: 5: 5: JAN-GE 12AX7WA: 4: 5: 5: JAN-GE 5751: 5: 5: 4: JJ Electronic ECC83S: 3: Jul 30, 2023 · Hi, thanks for any suggestions. The next owner took out the 6550s and installed re-issue Gold Lion KT-88s and said it was night-and-day better sounding. Tried the Gold Lion gold pins. Oct 17, 2007 · Here is more information on different preamp tubes. Any thoughts about KT88 vs 6550 would be appreciated. Needless to say each other 12AX7 had its own signature. Has anyone tried these? Jan 21, 2013 · Tung Sol 12AX7 tall grey or black plate. The current production Svetlana is a New Sensor product and is a member of 12AX7-EH and Tung-Sol 12AX7 family. Mullard 12AX7/ECC83 - This long plate works really well in some amps, and really doesn't in others. sony6060; Sep 9, 2013; Tube Audio Sep 16, 2010 · Previously the small signal tubes were a pair of used 1960's vintage Telefunken 12AX7's (which measured and performed well until one of them developed a problem, which prompted my purchase of the Gold Lion's), and a pair of NOS 1950's RCA 5963's (which had never been used, and measured well, but with a possibly significant mismatch between the Jul 17, 2018 · Seems there some very good current runs 12AX7 out there now. With careful shopping I buy Sovtek 12AX7LPS for about $12 each. punchier, more dynamic, a broader EQ range. As for phono, both tubes are not great. Aug 9, 2007 · So if you have new issue gold lions Kt-88 and need 12AT7's and 12AX7's which new issue driver tube would be a good match. May 16, 2022 · Ive tried Gold Lion, Baldwin (made by Toshiba), RCA Cleartop, and Ei Yugoslavia. they cost more but im happy to pay the premium. sometime in the next few months i'll probably dump the Nov 13, 2016 · Tried the Gold Lion 12AX7 tubes in my McIntosh C2500 preamp. The KT88's are pretty pricey at $84. They are the best ECC83 / 12AX7 preamp tube I've tried! And they are not overpriced rare NOS! - 10/10" Also check out our review. Aug 16, 2017 · 5751 was the USA alternative to 12AX7 in demanding applications where extremely low noise and low microphonics were necessary. Aug 3, 2018 · The Mullard 12AX7 long plate square getter is the best I ever heard. May 3, 2015 · The current reigning "12AX7" Champion in my tube amplifier is the Sylvania Blackplates gold labeled triple mica type 5751. The best made were Telefunken but are nearly impossible to find NOS at this point. etc, etc, etc For now, NOS not in consideration for re-issue senerios. Jan 17, 2021 · However, some brands made the 6201 as an “industrial” 12AT7. Black and grey plate are reported to sound the same. Slightly less warm than Telefunken, warmer than Brimar & very clear sounding. Mar 3, 2005 · I've tried, and had good success with the new Gold Lion 12AX7's & 12AU7's. 99. you dont want to know the price. I do not believe the Russian Golden Lion gold pins are worth an extra $13 each. Warmer than Telefunken, Mullard produce a splended harmonic structure and are very musical. Mullard 12AX7 long plate. (His words, not mine). The Golden Lion 12AX7 tall plate priced at $30-$35 each is a Sovtek 12AX7LPS that sells for $12. 6. Had a sale at Sweetwater for $14. Jan 3, 2016 · I love themyes the gain as always with 57571is less than a 12ax7. Some circuits may need alterations to use a 5751 tube. Dec 8, 2011 · FWIW, in most amps I achieved superior sound quality by replacing vintage Telefunken 12AX7s with either new-production Tung-Sol, or the Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7 / ECC83 / B759. The Amperex is in a class of its own for airy details and a much Dec 19, 2018 · The new production 12AX7's I tried were Mullard long plates, Genelex Gold Lions and Sovtek. Right now I’m using Mullard 1960’s Blackburn and have Gold lion gold pin as back ups. Jan 18, 2019 · Svetlana 12AX7 - For several years the original Svetlana 12AX7 tube from St. I've spoken with three different tube vendors who are frequently recommended on this forum and received three different assessments of the ribbed vs smooth plate versions. ALSO, if you know where to order specifically the E88CC in EUROPE, please link. If you are using penta labs KT-88, and need 12AT7's and 12AX7's which new issue driver tube would be a good match. Sep 22, 2020 · I’ve gotten the impression that Genalex Gold Lion brand tubes are of particularly high quality for a multitude of purposes, especially considering they’re, well, relatively cheap. The most desirable of the Telefunken ECC83 tubes is the “smooth-plate” or “flat-plate” versions. These Gold Lion ECC83 / B759 12AX7 Gold Pin are hand selected matched tubes. May 18, 2023 · Not in a Herron phono stage, but for what it may be worth, yes I have tried GE 5751 black plates in place of Telefunken, Siemens, Raytheon and other 12AX7’s in an EAR phono stage that I used to have. Noticeably more gain, too. They have preamp tubes as well. Genalex 12AX7 Gold Lion (15% OFF) Mullard 12AX7 (25% OFF SALE) Tubes A-Z -- All . Tube construction is quite rugged with very thick glass that’s formed into the typical “fat bottle” construction that I’ve come to expect. JJ also claimed to produce EF806S on orig. These windmill getter way outperform the Raytheon 12AX7 black plate by a mile! Jan 25, 2024 · "TELEFUNKEN Elektroakustik Black Diamond Series Vacuum Tubes are manufactured in partnership with JJ Tubes of Slovakia". as I look around other sellers the 12AX7s all look the same , no classification differences Nov 17, 2020 · I won't be chasing NOS tubes. Just a single tube. Nov 9, 2020 · Genalex Gold Lion 12ax7 vs Sovtek 12ax7LPS in phono pre. May 23, 2020 · Compared AU7-S series to NOS Telefunken AU7s, PSVANE T-IIs, Shuguang T series, Shuguang TG black carbon series, Mullard Blackburn 12AU7s, RCA black Plate 5814s. About $40 a pair in NOS. Jul 27, 2014 · I have no theoretical issue with new production tubes -- I use lots of new production output puts in my guitar amps and really love the sound I've gotten out of TAD 6L6WGC (great reliability and life on those too); and the New Sensor "Tung Sol" 6V6s sound quite nice too; like the Sovtek 12ax7LPS too -- but the practice of trying to give the new production tubes a little class by issuing them Jul 19, 2010 · Which Telefunken 12ax7 I'd like to hear from members who are familiar with NOS Telefunken 12ax7s from the 1950&60s. Looking for opinions on the new runs of Mullard 12AX7 long plate Mullard CV4004 short plate Genelex Gold Lion 12AX7 Any others I might of overlooked Or bite the bullet and use funds for Vintage 12AX7. They are good in all areas except for vocals, IMO. New Factory Tested Telefunken Black Diamond ECC83-TK (12AX7) Vacuum Tube. The plate voltage is around 100 volts vs the RCA that operates at 200+ volts in other gear. Nashville, TN, July 17-19, 2014 — TELEFUNKEN Elektroakustik of South Windsor, CT, is debuting its new line of Black Diamond Vacuum Tubes at Summer NAMM in Nashville. I didn't care for the reissues. Kind of similar to the Gold Lion 12AX7/ECC83/B759, the Mullard seems a little brighter, neither are harsh. The tone I got was incredible. Telefunken tooling, and the product is pretty lousy compared to real Telefunken EF86 (first series, which was more or less identical to the later produced Nov 2, 2022 · The Genalex Gold Lion CV4004 / 12AX7 vacuum tube is a fine example of why they got there. Mullard 12ax7 long plate- Warm and the classic tube sound. Dec 1, 2013 · I had a Cary amp years ago that ran the Russian 6550s and was not too impressed with the sound and sold it. Looking on Ebay, you can find Telefunken 12AX7 tubes with the diamond, made in Germany, 2 letter date code for $30-50 and then what appears to be same tubes for close to $200 or more. Gold Lion gold pin from Russia. The dual triode design makes the 12AX7 compact, relatively inexpensive, and produces a high quality full frequency response. The amp uses KT88, 12ax7, 12au7 and CR34 rectifier. These are not cheap tubes, but IMO superior to new manufacture. Designed for clean headroom than higher gain 12AX7s in overdrive. Anyway, the 12ax7 in the cathode follower spot needed replacing. Neu bin ich dabei auf die Genalex Gold Lion (Goldpin) und die Full Music aufmerksam geworden. I don’t want to pay a surplus >20€ toll or more for a few Feb 16, 2023 · Mullard 12AX7/ECC83 Long Plate Dual Post (Goalpost) O-Getter, Rare, England, several available Telefunken 12AX7 / ECC83 Tubes (1-pr. Apr 11, 2011 · Gold Lion RI 12AU7 Mullard 12AU7 Brimar 13D5 Sylvania 6189 Philips Cry'od 6189 Many wonderful tubes. But for the great sound & reasonable price, I just replaced it and everything has been great since. Tele 6922's are know to be highly resolving, leaning towards the clean clear analytical sound. I bought four Golden Lion 12AX7 tubes. Jan 31, 2017 · The 12AX7, being upstream, will have the most sonic merit. In many cases, the difference between 4 vs 5 is very hard to perceive. The perfection of German engineering can't be denied and Tele Nov 5, 2024 · Telefunken. com/products/gold-lion-e88cc-6922Genalex Gold Lion E88CC 6922 - Others sell this tube as comparable to new old stock, or copied afte Sep 8, 2018 · #1 -- @allied333 is talking about old production UK-made Mullard from the '50s and '60s, tubes that haven't been made in 50 years. Which are their most expensive and lowest noise. In fact, your Telefunken are also superior to new manufacture. Cheers, PC Aug 26, 2023 · Welcome to the wonderful, crazy world of tube rolling. Even the US made 12AU7s are no slouch. upscaleaudio. 1- Gold Lion 12AX7 short plate made in China $21 each 2- Gold Lion 12AX7 gold pin long plate made in Russia $31 each 3- Sovtek 12AX7LPS long plate made in Russia $11 each 4- Telefunken 12AX7 smooth plate made in Germany See full list on killerrig. Jan 26, 2016 · Having said that, I can state without reservation that, to my ears, three tubes stood out time and again: the Gold Lion KT77, the Shuguang Treasure series black bottle 6CA7-Z, and the new production Tung Sol EL34B. After the selection process they go though a series of cryogenic processes (multiple cycles) that improves their performance even more than the normal single stage cryo treatment. Dec 11, 2010 · Hey Ruffian I'm running the Gold Lion re-issued KT77's in my amp's finals and I've been curious about these ECC83slet me know what the verdict is after some more time w/ 'em. -2 sets of TJ Full Music 12AX7/12AU7-1 set of RFT ECC83 plus 5 RFT 12AU7 (the RFT 12AX7/12AU7 were a present from a German neigbourgh, they came from his personal collection, he had literally TONS of them in NOS condition)-3 units of NEC 12AD7-1 set of NEC 12AX7/12AU7-2 units of golden pins of Gold Lion 12AX7 with around 100 hours of use. Sorry if I'm confusing you. Unfortunately very expensive used, NOS- forget it. But im using a Telefunken ecc83 now,and this works better than all for me . Feb 23, 2016 · I generally like either the new production Tung-Sol 12AX7 or Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7 / ECC83 / B759 gold pin (both Russian) over vintage Telefunken. The GE 5814A you described are the ones that can have the tubby bass. I'd go for the newer re-issue tubes if it were me. Any information would be appreciated. Aug 26, 2014 · Currently using psvane 12ax7, I like them the best of the new 12ax7, next I would say it is Genalex Gold Lion. I'm looking for warm, musicality, 3D, smooth for tube pre. Today, a look at almost any guitar tube amp, be it Fender , Marshall , Vox , or any other, will prove the 12AX7 / ECC83 / 7025 tubes are here to stay. They are not inexpensive, but not horrible expensive, and are so much better then even the highest regarded standard 12AX7's regardless the maker or time era. In some circuit positions I prefer to Telefunken. While there are considerable differences between these tubes as to SQ, all of them sound to my ears superior in one way or another over the EH's, or the Sovtek's. Source: EMM Labs TSD1 & DAC2, Benchmark DAC1 PRE, iFi iDSD Signature, iFi iDSD Diablo Amplifier: Earmax Anniversary, Balancing Act Sep 2, 2011 · If your piece can use 5751's I have found no tube that offers the sound of music better then these two: 1) Sylvania Gold Brand 5751's either gold or silver pins. Jan 23, 2020 · Genalex Gold Lion 12ax7 vs Sovtek 12ax7LPS in phono pre. Share your tube rolling experiences with Genalex Gold Lions, please. Sep 9, 2013 · I mentioned in the Fisher forum I would compare the following 12AX7s. Jun 5, 2021 · I have tried the following 12ax7, 12at7 in my McIntosh C2600 preamp: Genalex Gold Lion (new production) 12ax7, 12at7= Very clear, they take a while to break in, very balanced in both ends. This Gold Lion 12AX7 CV4004 gold pins tube replaced my NOS 60’s French Mazda long grey plates in my 1994 Marshall Valvestate. A warm tone that at first sounds nice but lacks detail and transparency compared to my NOS 12AX7's. they where good, but a nice TEN 5751 paired with a Telefunken 12au7 puts me in audio bliss! The Gold Lion nor Mullards cant touch them. ) Telefunken 12AX7 Smooth Plate with Diamond Bottom NOS testing Several Available Jul 11, 2016 · Some prefer the Gold Lion's over the Psvane 12AX7 . I now pair the Gold Lions 12ax7's with NOS Tungsram in my preamp. GE must have the dual 12AX7/7025 label. They all had some things in common. That chart refers to tubes made today in Russia by New Sensor, the same company and plant that makes Electro Harmonix, Sovtek, Gold Lion, and "Mullard" and other tube brands that use great old brand names of tube makers of the past. these are for a direct replacement on an ART Tubeopto8, 8 channel tube preamp. Listened for a week, liked the McIntosh branded tubes much better. is this possible or sales hype. Thanks David Mar 3, 2005 · My EAR 834P Chinese clone Phono preamp works great with Ei's ECC83/12AX7 and ECC82/12AU7 (as a V3 that is used as a "buffer tube" on a cathode follower configuration), it also likes some Hitachi 12AX7 and 12AU7, and Matsushita 12AX7 and 12AU7. The Russian Golden Lion costs about $50 a pair and the Chinese Golden Lion costs about $40 a pair. I think they are made by JJ. After i purchased a set of 4 of the Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7/ECC83 Gold Pin Preamp Tubes. of current manufacture. Thus unknown tube is better than $150 Mullard 12AX7 long plate. The Golden Lion 12AX7 short plate priced at $25 each is manufactured in China and worth about $8 due to poor performance. after installing these new Gold Lion 12ax7, which took about one hour Dec 16, 2020 · had a psvane 12ax7 t mk 2 in my Croft. ECC83 - European designation for 12AX7 12AX7 - The 12AX7 is a high-mu twin triode which operates in typical service as a class A amplifier, in the preamp stages of high fidelity, musical instrument, and public address amps, as well as professional line and microphone preamps, and many other audio and communications devices. The Westinghouse tall ribbed plate are poor. Jan 13, 2019 · Rebranded as Mesa 12AX7, Ruby 12AX7CZ, Telefunken Black Diamond ECC83-TK, Groove Tubes ECC83-S, and many many others. tooling isn't the whole art in manufacturing a tube. Vocals were more recessed and diffuse as compared to the JJs. I’m considering the Telefunken but don’t want bright or sterile or it to shout at me, but still very interested due to there reputation. Jun 18, 2017 · Im Moment werkeln in meiner WBE Endstufe ein paar Telefunken Smooth Plates. Looking to purchase 2 or 3 pair of 12ax7’s for a Audio Hungary a50i. Amperes BugleBoy 12ax7 Foil Getter- Very similiar to Mullard Long plates but with more detail Mazda 12ax7-To me sounds like Teles with a dash of Amperex. Just depends on what you're looking for and what they're in combination with. I like Brimar CV4003 or Westinghouse 12AX7 short plate with center bump. I just have not auditioned other than 12AX7. Mar 16, 2015 · Telefunken 12ax7 smooth plate- Clean and neutral. 951970年製?Teslaと Jan 14, 2020 · Telefunken 12ax7 (12at7, krátká deska), dlouhá šedá deska V podstatě se o této elektronce dá napsat to stejné co o elektronce Northern Elektric 12ax7, akorát Telefunken není tak dynamický a na pozadí čistý, ale za to je o něco více barevnější a mírně teplejší. ebzrykso sir lqszr dgbiyp buxf ubxfq zpqwcj ugstje gvmd ukzxcaa hezepjuk gofmql dvxfor gxsa fta