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Fiero 3800 swap exhaust probably because the heat from the exhaust comes right up and soaks exhaust that needs to be modified up by the S bends and the CAT. 4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign. Posts: 7106 From: Lorain, Ohio Registered: Sep 2008. The one big thing is I have the Isuzu transmission which i've heard many First make sure you get the engine harness from the donor car. If you have an S2 3800 SC or S3 SC 3800 (any year) & 1997 4T65E you can run it on a 98-02 PCM (that fits in the console). 4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. About to pick up a 2006 GM’s 3800 is to V-6 engines what the original Chevrolet small block is to the V-8. Matthew_Fiero Member . '87 Fiero GT. Post Reply 3800 series 3 swap by Guy Fiero in FL. 1) are all fiero muffler heat shields the same, regardless of year or engine? My car is an 88 V6 2. The stock Fiero tips fit with no restriction. 597 @88. I just want the 3800 in the car and functional. Sorry if there over 100k, i dont have anythign to resize at the moment. For instance if you use WCF mounts you will need the 4T65eHD inners, the Fiero outers, a 13' axle bar on the driver side and a 14" axle bar on the passenger side. 4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log 3. These are compiled below. I do have some skills and some assistance as far as a good mechanic with some fabrication skills (family If you can reuse your old working Fiero sender that will work too but if it is that big can type fittiment issues can result. 4 is the *easiest* 3400/3500 and 3800 swaps any mecanicaly savy person can get done if they have the time. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3. "No hate-ing on the wing, im selling it $200. ) and during this time i'm also I have a '95 Buick 3800, a '92 Lumina 4T60e (should be the same as the Buick trans, right?), the ECU & wiring from it to the engine out of the Buick, & an '88 Fiero 4 cyl. belt # for 3800 swap by Lou6t4gto. The eco tec seems to be more popular and I started doing some research, but not finding out good full donor cars or even know what to look for. This Ok, I am ready to start my thread on my engine swap. There Ok, I have been telling myself for awhile I will try and do a budget 3800 turbo swap to see if I could even compare to what darkhorizon has pulled off with his builds, as he claims $700 or so for Justin's 5 speed car, then some of you have seen my Turbo tdc project in the works with the ITBs, well it as most things are on hold/the back burner. 5" tubing to Monza tips-3. CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD A PRINTABLE/MOBILE FRIENDLIER VERSION TO SEARCH THIS PAGE, PRESS ctrl F (PC), Joe Welch (olejoedad) can build you a very neat and functional 3800 swap harness. ) Do you guys normally put extra material under the heat shield for Hey all, I have been reading and researching different engine choices for the Fiero. The lower alternator bracket for the 3800 uses your 99 - 03 alternator. 9, Hey guys, I am pre-planning the exhaust and I need to know if it's possible to setup the exhaust on a fiero with a 3800 without cutting the trunk that is not unbearably loud. jb1 Member . Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006. www. I currently have a poorly installed series 1 SC engine installed with a series 2 4t65-e transmission and PCM. A flex pipe must be used with the series 2 3800 Fiero – Exhaust Fabrication. At least one 3800 swap burnt down due to improper insulation materials coming loose and setting on the exhaust. thereby optimizing the flow of exhaust gases. This document is targeted to the consumer that needs to know how things work, and wants to be educated in the swap process of putting a 3800 based engine to That’s why the 3800 engine swap kits are priced competitively, making them the most cost-effective solution for engine conversion needs. Posts: 56 From: Peterson Iowa Hey all, I have been reading and researching different engine choices for the Fiero. 8L for a supercharged 3. mattwa Member . A 3800 auto swap would be in every way identical to a dohc swap. 2146 posts Member since May I've heard that to be smog legal in CA the 3800 needs to be mated to an auto. The car is a 1985 Fiero GT with a Getrag 5 speed. it also needs the part that hooks it to the other part on my engine. I will be running an 88 subframe in an 86 Fiero, This is the dog bone bracket I use. but it does leave the trunk intact and looks pretty simple. I do have some skills and some assistance as far as a good mechanic with some fabrication skills (family I am doing a 3800 L67 swap in my fiero, and I am trying to find a fuel pump that will be able to handle the increase fuel needs. And then I build Sounds like you made a good choice, swapping to a manual in the Fiero isn't very difficult either. These are all the brackets you need along with new rubber mounts for a 3800/SC & 4T65E swap. Feedback score: Leave feedback: to the Fiero because of the length of the rear collector. 5" blower pulley-Stock 3800 exhaust manifolds and crossover As far as the car being loud with no muffler. It exits in the single stock position across from the rear center cylinder. In the image below you can see how the mufflers are currently arranged. -----1986 Fiero GT fastback SC3800 3. Cost wise I would imagine they are roughly the same (please correct me if Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions - Archive N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. Tools were a factor in the time, for instance cutting exhaust pipes with a 4. 4 Engine and Transmission Mounts and Brackets; 3800 Series I, II, and III That’s why the 3800 engine swap kits are priced competitively, making them the most cost-effective solution for engine The WCF headers are a transformative addition to your 3800 Fiero engine swap, designed to significantly enhance the torque output within the 1500 to 5500 rpm range. If you have an S2 3800 SC (any year) & 1998-02 transmission you can run it on the PCM that came with the transmission However, most of my customers prefer to keep their trunk and use stock 3800 manifolds so I have designed an exhaust system that uses 3. Started on: 07-23-2021 06:00 AM: Replies: 10 (321 views) Last post by: TXGOOD on 07-29-2021 02:53 PM: Jul 23rd, 2021. Just had them ceramic coated. They are used on all the Fiero Factory 4. 8L engine from a 1998 Pontiac Grand Well here it is. One engine is basically a stock 3800 SC Series II with a 3. Started on: 01-18-2022 05:55 PM: Replies: 3 (751 views) Last post by: Ferio85 on 01-28-2022 10:08 AM: Jan 18th, 2022. $85 + shipping here's a picture of my exhaust before it was installed. 4 PR in my car for about 3 years. 4 DOHC swap, but it wasn't running. I did one swap a long time ago where I put the coil pack in the Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions - Archive 3800 swap T H I S I S A N A R C H I V E D T O P I C : 3800 swap. The first time I saw this car i knew i had to The series 2 3800 came with wiring harness,starter,alternator,flex plate,and OBD2 computer. The construction Pennock's Fiero Forum General Fiero Chat 3800 Swap 3800 Swap . The PO that I purchased the car from did not install the WCF exhaust because he thought it would be too loud. He had never installed this setup because of noise concerns. Started on: 08-29-2016 12:22 PM: Replies: 29 (2103 views) Last post by: Larry Hubbert on 03-01-2021 03:10 PM: Aug 29th, 2016. I'm planning on the 3800 swap for an 86 GT, but keeping the manual transmission. 3. RobsFieros. 87GT - 3. It looks like the 2003 and up has a 150hp and a stick shirt, and Good morning, all. This engine is out of a 99 Regal, I bought it for $50. Currently my car has no muffler exhaust shield in the stock location, and I am struggling to find one. But I want something a bit more modern. Compared to other swap options, the LS4 enjoys a relatively robust support network. ----- Red 1988 GT 5 speed LQ1 Powered Someone had posted about a few weeks ago NOT to use stock fiero exhaust, is the spintec " More Free Flowing"(less back pressure ? IP: Logged I have seen many 3800 exhaust setups without that flex, I've also seen cat's small enough to fit David Cole's 3800/5-speed swap Custom flywheel has to be made to bolt to *8* bolt crank pattern of 3800. Trying to plan ahead, I would like to get some good ideas about exhaust system choices available for this Fiero swap. {basically a 3. Modified Mustang manifolds. My Fiero is a 87 GT and I'm trying to weigh the pro's and cons of both. 4 pulley and a custom exhaust. This places the exhaust outlet in the same area as Author Topic: Our First 3800 SC Swap (Read 52422 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Typical exhaust system. 5" blower pulley-Stock 3800 exhaust manifolds and crossover 3800 swap parts list Motor Mounts Wiring Harnesses (both Fiero and Motor) Reprogrammed PCM Proper Oil filter adapter or filter relocation kit Two left Fiero GM Manual axles and 4T65E-HD right inner tripot (for auto trans swap) Transmission cooler and lines (for auto swap if Fiero was Manual) Clutch/Pressure plate and T/O bearing (for manual swap) Welcome to the One-Stop-Shop for modifying/repairing/tuning a 3800 engine and/or swapping it into a Fiero! You will likely not come across a more thorough collection of 3800 information, parts, diagrams, instructions, or videos than here. In a stock 3800 exhaust you will find a 2 inch y pipe, and a 2. Well At first I was just going to replace some exhaust manifold gaskets. it's going to be in the garage for awhile while i work on getting it road worthy (ball joints, tie rod ends, mounts, interior work etc. -----" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3. His work is very good. . N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. Be careful using insulating materials and only use materials rated for exhaust and engine bays. I'll update later. Granted the stock setup has slightly 3800 swap. Post Reply Engine has been run maybe 5 times for less than a minute, once for 3ish minutes. Posts: 5410 to the Fiero because of the length of the rear collector. it started!! 3800 swap. 36 Best MPH 121. html Well here it is. 0" mandrel-bent exhaust split off to 2x 2. The reason is that the guy thinks it spun a rod bearing. He had also ordered a single 3" West Coast Fiero exhaust system with the Spinteck single outlet muffler. Started on: 11-15-2012 09:25 PM: Replies: 6 : Last post by: hercimer01 on 11-17-2012 01:17 Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions - Archive 3800 swap (Page 1) T H I S I S A N A R C H I V E D T O P I C : 3800 swap This topic is 2 pages long: 1 2 Previous Page | Next Page Page 1 of 2 Last. Custom exhaust w/ C6 Corvette Top 5 Reasons to Swap a 3800 Supercharged into your Fiero. 5 dual tips. -----" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3. 4 Engine and Transmission Mounts and Brackets; 3800 Series I, II, and III. I have installed a few of these mufflers into Fieros Good morning, all. this is pic from customer running one of my harnesses, ------------------ 87GTseries 1 3800sc (7. Fiero Parts Vendors PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay Fiero with a 2000 L67 3800 Supercharged swap from a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, exhaust test. Posts: 504 From: schaghticoke ny usa The 320lph is supposedly installed in a 3800 turbo and the 255lph Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions 3800 swap, no oil to rockers 3800 swap, no oil to rockers. 5" ABS plastic induction tubing (GM duct p/n 25176891)-K&N filter Welcome to the One-Stop-Shop for modifying/repairing/tuning a 3800 engine and/or swapping it into a Fiero! You will likely not come across a more thorough collection of 3800 information, parts, diagrams, instructions, or videos than here. 4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign The seller of this 1988 model has dropped a supercharged 3800-series engine into his Fiero, making a decent performer a seriously quick car, with the description noting Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions If anyone has any experience or can put me in the right direction for a 3800 series 1 Sc swap for and 87 gt 5 speed,I would greatly appreciate it. I figured I would at least start this one to try to get the ball rolling. 579 60ft) (series II swap in progress) 85GT Northstar/ 4t80e Northstar Rebuild[This message has been edited by jb1 (edited 12-01-2016 My personal 3800SC swap uses a 3" In dual 2 1/2" Out Flotech Afterburner cross flow muffler with two Heddman hot tip resonators. 4L To that end, I am redesigning the swap exhaust to a dual 2. I am currently building my series 2 SC engine that I plan on installing it in the nexted month or Originally posted by Darth Fiero: The stock 3800 Series 2/3 crossover pipe has a slip/expansion flange in the end where it mates up to the rear exhaust manifold. Just have to get a few pictures up. car. 3 pickup truck with a hole in the Mustang exhaust manifolds on 3800 swap by CowsPatoot. This places the exhaust outlet in the same area as The exhaust system uses the stock 3800 header which wraps around the heads. when I start it, unless i have the throttle body proped open slightly it will die right The West Coast Fiero 3800 Series I Mount and Bracket Kit (AUTO) is a comprehensive package designed to facilitate the installation of your new 3800 Series I engine and your 3800 automatic transmission into your Fiero. I originally bought the cats for the swap ten years ago or so, and they've been sitting on the shelf since. '88 Fiero GT- 3800 Turbo Best E. I don't know if it's any different with a 3800 swap but with a stock Fiero, you can bypass the fuel pump relay and test the fuel pump directly by applying 12v (from the cigarette lighter) to fuel pump terminal of the ALDL port. wahoo4u Member . 3800 Fiero 3800 Fiero – Exhaust Fabrication MTOAdmin 11 years ago The available space for the exhaust on the Fiero is quite limited, most I set about purchasing a 3800SC swap Fiero after years of thinking about it. I'm currently in progress of getting my iron duke cleaned up and my project fiero back on the road. You can take this car to the track and run high 11’s right off the street. I have clearance from the local exhaust shop to get the The West Coast Fiero 3800 Series II & III Headers and "Y" pipe are designed to fit a 3800 Buick engine that has been retrofit into a Fiero. Damn good reasons to pull the trigger on that 3800 Swap! // Video Damn good reasons to pull the trigger on that 3800 Swap! I was so blown away with how capable and reliable Supercharged 3800 Fiero's are, I built my own. This places the exhaust outlet in the same area as Hey guys, I am pre-planning the exhaust and I need to know if it's possible to setup the exhaust on a fiero with a 3800 without cutting the trunk that is not unbearably loud. 5" dp into 2. I had the Fiero V6 f/w modified to accomplish this. IMO, if There is no 1 way to do exhaust on a swap, heck there is probley more than 10 completely different ways to do exhaust on a 3800. 0" mandrel bent tubing from the The only headers made specifically for the 3800SC swap in a Fiero are the WCF's and now we read reports of A/C line interference and cracking. Also, there are several Generation I 3800's available to me rather inexpensively, so I plan on one of those as well (the 165 horse 'log' plenum type). That one on CL is on a manual, so I wonder if he passed smog with it or if that's one of the reasons for the low price. I've searched through the forums for information on the 3800 swap, but it seems most of the used the auto trans that matches the 3800. Powerlog manifold, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech The LQ4 TB is also a popular choice on 3800's but you may still need to run a larger inline MAF sensor to take advantage of the better flow. And then I build the parts on jigs. 99 ZZP Hydraulic Roller Lifters- 3800- $109. Posts: 8436 From: sarasota Registered: May 2008. I was in hopes some might provide some insight into this as I'm having difficulty making up my mind with what engine swap to do. Pennock's Fiero Forum FAQs & HowTos 3800 swap harnesses (Page 1) 3800 swap harnesses. Here comes 350+whp Currently my swap is running stock manifolds into a high flow cat, and down to a dual outlet flowmaster, but the way it was done, it takes up about half the trunk. nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/139530. I have gotten to a point with My personal 3800SC swap uses a 3" In dual 2 1/2" Out Flotech Afterburner cross flow muffler with two Heddman hot tip resonators. Ive wanted a fiero all my life, my car is about one year older than I am. Feedback Ill start with pic of my car. Next make sure you have the Fiero's harness you will need some of Anyone with the 3800 swap and the magnaflow 12267 muffler please send me pics by Lou and Blue. 99 Rollmaster double timing chain- $135. 4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI Originally posted by Darth Fiero: I've done some backpressure tests of my own on some of the 3800 SC swaps I've done. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. Since 3800 SWAP by TXGOOD. Does anyone have a good clean shot of the underbelly of a 3800 installed Fiero? I'm having trouble picturing where all the plumbing and connections go. But then I decided to do a 3800 swap. Just I purchased a 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT with 63,699 miles this past November (2019) and have been restoring and upgrading the car. Instead , he had installed the old 4Cly. 4 Headers and Exhaust; 3. 4L Turbocharged engine, At first I was just going to replace some exhaust manifold gaskets. I dont have the original Fiero wiring harness. Has been a project of mine for the past 10 years but time to make room in the garage. You're right, the 3800 also suffered from intake gasket failure and was remedied also with an aluminum set. I bought a Fiero with a completed 3. Made a little "muffler" box with some packing in it, but the loudest part is the whistle Justin W-----1988 Fiero Formula 4-spd- 3400sfi intercooled turbo Haltech ECU. This info was in the most recent Originally posted by Darth Fiero: probably because the heat from the exhaust comes right up and soaks it. Started on: 07-03-2008 04:12 PM: Replies: 14 : Last post by: darkhorizon on 07-24-2008 03:16 AM: Jul 3rd, 2008. And it does so with superior low-end response. If its a well done swap and smogable then its a good deal. With WCF, customers get unparalleled quality without breaking the bank. Started on: 07-09-2015 01:52 PM: Replies: 37 (1290 views) "Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT 3800sc series 2 swap in progress- The West Coast Fiero 3800 Series II & III Headers and "Y" pipe are designed to fit a 3800 Buick engine that has been retrofit into a Fiero. 4", and obviously a re-tuned PCM. Feedback score: Leave feedback: Rate this member: Report this Post 08-29-2016 12:22 PM jb1. Started on: 10-09-2014 08:01 PM: Replies: 2 (627 views) Last post by: darkhorizon on 10-14-2014 10:40 AM: Oct 9th, 2014. 4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Took me about three years to rebuild the stock V6 souped-up with a refreshed transmission, working maybe 10 hours every weekend. On one swap in particular, here's what I came up with: Configuration:-3800 Series 3 SC (L32) stock cam and heads-1. The first few posts will be alittle slow because I am still collecting parts. Started on: 12-26-2019 06:14 PM: Replies: 11 (189 views) Last post by: olejoedad on 12-28-2019 06:10 PM: Dec 26th, 2019. You have to swap your radiator to one with a trans cooler, or add a stand alone cooler and run lines. you. "THE COLUSSUS" 3800 requires alot of rewiring they aren't telling you about vs. Next make sure you have the Fiero's harness you will need some of West Coast Fiero’s “What It Takes” guide provides valuable insights into what is required for each conversion, helping Fiero owners make informed decisions about upgrading their vehicles. jasper Member . Signature has alot of 3800 info-----[16:58] davepettinelli: mine's got a court-apponted psychiatrist [16:58] davepettinelli: yay girls [16:59] GTPimpin: mine whines alot [16:59] GTPimpin: her name is fiero Ultimate 3800 swap thread The Midwest Fiero Club also ran a two part series in their club news letter on doing a 3800 engine swap and it as well as the referenced publications/materials are worth reading IMO. I have most of my parts laser cut from 1/4 in plate. - The fastest Fiero in France! @turboslugfiero When people have done this in the past they refer to it as a top swap (3800 SC heads/lower intake/SC on a NA Darth Fiero has mounted them there on a few swaps. Lou6t4gto Member . The Series III enhances the 3800’s reputation as a competitive and contemporary engine, with output, efficiency and emissions levels that meet or beat overhead-cam engines. Some are surprising like the LT1 at 620 lbs manual and 562 automatic but here is the list for reference. Posts: 37 From: Registered: Mar 2019. Goto: 3800 swap by Trille9. For an exhaust I I just went to the mall & there is a lot of 3800 stuff for sale built pass axle for 3800 swap 3800 engine for sale incomplete 86 Fiero 4 speed 3800 swap, every thing needed to complete Brand x motor mounts are now available garage -1988 Fiero GT 39,xxx original miles-2001 3800 Series II SC engine with 26 miles-5-speed 282 Fiero getrag trans with a Gleason Torsen limited slip diff-1995 OBD 1. T. I believe the 96 F-body (Camaro/Firebird), which uses the 3800 Series II, has a BUILD 1: A COMPLETE BUDGET 3800 FIERO SWAP AND/OR 3800 REPAIR GUIDE CLICK TO VIEW MOST OF BUILD 1 ON AMAZON CLICK HERE FOR A PRICING GUIDE AND A CUSTOMIZABLE BUILD SHEET (maintained infrequently) Re-used stock Fiero exhaust tips Optional: 96-02 Camaro/Firebird Oil Pan for Stock Exhaust Routing NOT Videos from the instructional how-to thread on doing a complete 3800sc swap - https://www. I will be swapping the 2. 5 or 3. 99 ZZP performance 4340 H beamn 3800 connection rods- support 1000hp- $599 ARP 3800 Head studs- $99 Oil pump kit- $114 Z3 Turbokit- (still need intercooler) $2,439 Siemens Deka 60# Injectors- E85- $317-these seem " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3. when I start it, unless i have the throttle body proped open slightly it will die right 3. "THE COLUSSUS" Headers These superior headers are the key to unlocking your Fiero engine’s full potential. The exhaust noise was intense and I've decided to install a new system. 53 1. Even though it was a completed swap I had to redo everything to get it to an acceptable quality level. It has a Darrell Morse ported throttle body, and port matched intake manifold opening, Rodney's stainless vacuum lines, Rodney's idler pully, Rodney's power pulleys, ported Trying to keep it 'mostly' that way. Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. darkhorizon Member . I found one of sale locally and went for a test drive. I always thought it would be a fun, sporty car with good power/weight ratio. You can take this car to the track and run The West Coast Fiero 3800 Series II & III Headers and "Y" pipe are designed to fit a 3800 Buick engine that has been retrofit into a Fiero. Dennis LaGrua The Fiero Vss produces a sine wave of 4000 pulses per mile. Posts: 2146 From: Tullahoma, Tennessee Registered: May 2003. Post Reply Email This Page to Someone! 3800 swap harnesses by The later series III N/A versions came with 200 HP. Sorry. The way this flange is designed only allows good exhaust flow in one direction (from the Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions - Archive 3800 swap donor car T H I S I S A N A R C H I V E D T O P I C Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version | Add to My Favorites Page 1 of 1 Last. Lets just say that if you cut your trunk, you have most of those options availible for you, and IMO the This past weekend I put over 400 miles on my car (1986 GT 3800SC 5spd). Whether you’re considering a 3800, 3. Post Reply Email This Page to Someone! and it didn't sound like a 4. The one big thing is I have the Isuzu transmission which i've heard many My 3800 sc car has a Spintec muffler with 3" single outlet exhaust built by WC Fiero and it is not too loud, and I'm almost 71 years old. 4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD Hi all is there a DIY thread for building your own 3800 swap axles for the 4t65-HD tranny thanks. IP Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions - Archive 3800 obd2 wiring swap questions with lots of pictures (Page 1) The West Coast Fiero 3800 Series II & III Headers and “Y” pipe we offer are specifically engineered to accommodate a 3800 Buick engine that has been retrofitted into a Fiero. I'm Hello I am getting my 3800 exhaust re-done soon and will be putting a muffler in the stock Fiero location. I had the 3" setup installed about a year ago and the exhaust sound is definitely With this years Christmas bonus being better than I expected I thought I'd try to make this dream come true. 5" with a Magnaflow high flow Cat into 2 glasspack Just did a swap with one and it's quieter then the stock 2. Engine Chev LT1 620 lbs manual (due to flywheel) 562 lbs automatic Chev LS1 smallblock 497lbs manual 458lbs automatic 3. 5 inch angle grinder I had to cut the long way all around, vs just having an abrasive chop saw with a large enough disc to cut the pipe in one go. 8L is getting a bit tired (losing compression, less pickup, etc) and I have been weighing options from a stock replacement to something far more exotic like a V6 or 8 swap. Post Reply -Master Power T61 Turbo w/ . If your exhaust/muffler is stainless, you can use standard header wrap on it to help keep more of the heat in the mufflers and pipes. I’m pipe dreaming an engine swap and looking at the usual 3800 swap. I see that many people switch to the steel oil pans when General Fiero Chat - Archive 3800 Swap Cost T H I S I S A N A R C H I V E D T O P I C : 3800 Swap Cost We paid $1500 (US) for a 2002 GTP 3800SCII with 4t65E-HD, PCM and wiring, +misc (axles, airbox,exhaust downpipe) We have another $1000 into swap related items, mounts, hoses, programming, gauges, exhaust ect. They provide the necessary breathing space for your engine, allowing it to function as it was originally designed to. Yes, in that link there is bmwuru's car he built with the Magnaflow makes a sound that matches the Fiero very well, but at the higher In an effort to try to give something back to the forum that I have taken from for many years. My 2. Hello I am planning to get my exhaust re-done soon. -----87GT - 3800SC Series III engine, 3. 3800 SuperCharged or 3800 Natural Aspirated engine FAQ for the DIY . For 4 speed manual swaps a Mustang manifold on the fire wall side and the modded 3800 on the trunk side with the exhaust wrapped under the engine in the stock location and "Y" together just before the muffler is a General Fiero Chat 3800 series 3 swap wiring harness Stock manifolds with a nice free flowing exhaust, autolite 104 spark plugs, and a smaller blower pully, probably 3. I have decided to try to compile as much information as possible into one location Tomorrow I'm driving to check out a Fiero, 5 speed, iron duke it runs, but it has issues going into gear when it's running which i have a feeling is just the hydraulic system, so that' l be an easy fix at some point. Comes with the bolts to mount it to the engine. As you may have seen, I have started building some parts for the 3800 engine swaps. A short pipe is attached here and curves down feeding an upside down Y. I've done some research and have discovered the weights of various engines used for Fiero engine swaps. First make sure you get the engine harness from the donor car. With the 3800 a signal of 24,000 PPM is generated by its Vss but that signal is first sent to the PCM then inputted back to the speedometer In other words you 3800 series 3 swap 3800 series 3 swap . 50 (Sold and gone) 2021 Hyundai Veloster-N (SCCA Solo D-Street) 2004 Mazda RX-8 (SCCA Solo STX If you have an S2 3800 SC or S3 SC 3800 (any year) & 1996 4T60E transmission only the 1996 PCM will run it. Left one fit as is, right one needs the tripot from the 4T65E-HD put on. Since he had given me the WCF My 3800 sc car came from the PO with the stock 4cylinder single exhaust connected to a set of WC Fiero's headers. Started on: 06-03-2014 02:02 AM: Replies: 5 (1126 views) Last post by: anthony_86gt on 07-15-2014 11:22 AM: Jun 3rd, 2014. $20 3800 swap exhaust, pick up only fenton mi by darkhorizon. The PO did the swap and exhaust so other than knowing the muffler is a spintek, and the tips were Hot Tips (which I've replaced with C5 tips) can't help with the rest. BUT, for the time being, I just want to be able to 3800 swap harness by jb1. Here are just a few picks of the engine and my car that it's goin into. The result is a noticeable increase exhaust that needs to be modified up by the S bends and the CAT. My car is a black 1988 fiero GT fastback with t-tops and 18" MSW wheels. Never even tried to see if they fit. On the one hand I absolutely love the 3800 and on the other hand a LS seems appealing. custom axles, Champion I would like to keep the exhaust sound down as much as possible, the 3800 sounds absolutely horrible for a sporty looking car. IT DOES NOT BELONG ON THIS CAR. In the mean time i'd like to start planning a 3800 NA swap as well as a F23 swap The swap in general I have all the knowledge i need as far as wiring goes and the needs there. The LS4 engine has ascended to the zenith of engine swaps for the Pontiac Fiero, setting a new standard in the realm of performance and power. com edit, msd coils suck. Mechanically, it ran well, sounded good and I could tell the install was done the right way. I was looking at the Spintech 343SC crossflow muffler that is roughly the same size 13" Well, this is the first of many posts on my engine swap. Post Reply Page 1 of 1 Last. 37 posts Member since Mar 2019. My car has a Series III 3800 with the aluminum oil pan The exhaust runs the stock fiero route, using WCF headers The existing pipe running "around" the oil pan has basically no clearance and is mostly "below" the cradle, and has scraped on the road as a result. IP: Logged. I just stayed with the stock manifolds. Started on: 04-03-2023 08:12 PM: Replies: 4 (441 views) Last post by : Dennis LaGrua on 04-15-2023 09:06 PM Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD A PRINTABLE/MOBILE FRIENDLIER VERSION TO SEARCH THIS PAGE, PRESS ctrl F (PC), Pennock's Fiero Forum The Mall $20 3800 swap exhaust, pick up only fenton mi $20 3800 swap exhaust, pick up only fenton mi. Hero Member Then we're going to install the 340 hp engine in an 87 Fiero GT. I can't find ANY 3800 NA swap threads. System Bot. Started on: 09-12-2008 02:24 AM: Replies: 23 : Last post by: RULOOKIN on 01-21-2010 03:01 PM: Sep 12th, 2008. I don't think you could swap it for much less if not more. When it came time to go for a test drive, I was kind of underwhelmed 3. I don't want to invest any more than I need to on this swap. The motor was given to me. custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3. This below was to do a Custom and cared for Pontiac Fiero GT with 3800SC swap. picks would be great. -----Mike '86 Fiero 3800 supercharged '86 Fiero SE original General Fiero Chat Yet Another 3800 Swap Build '87 GT 3800 Auto Yet Another 3800 Swap Build '87 GT 3800 Auto. On the highway you can hardly hear the radio. -----" Pennock's Fiero Forum Technical Discussion & Questions belt # for 3800 swap belt # for 3800 swap. "THE COLUSSUS" 3800 Swap wiring Questions (and misc) I know there are some wires that go to the Fiero connectors inside the engine bay. While the muffler is compact, non-restrictive and fits well it is very loud under any driving condition. custom axles, Champion ZZP 3800 Performance lifter trays- $189. 5 engine management with one of my custom chips-3. 5" with Random Tech cats. 9L swap harnesses there and those I have seen. New videos coming Spring (hopefully!) custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, Its not a cheap harness but the house does good work. Started on: 01-20-2012 07:18 AM: Replies: 41 : Last post by: JumpStart on 01-24-2012 08:42 AM: Jan Welcome to the One-Stop-Shop for modifying/repairing/tuning a 3800 engine and/or swapping it into a Fiero! You will likely not come across a more thorough 3. I think the best Just fixed broken links in the 3800sc Fiero Swap guide for the Christmas Season. the one on the exhaust doesn't work. lowtrickry Member . Without a trunk you might find that your Fiero automatically becomes "race ony" . 4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P I'm working on a 3500/F23 swap, if you use the fiero timing cover, the engine almost bolts in, if you use the 3x00 timing cover and accessory drive, you'll need to relocate your dogbone and make a couple of mounts. In a month or so, it should pick up pretty well. Since the 3800-swap, I have had ~30 ¼ miles passes (around 10 passes on the current setup) and have not had a single problem. A new crank, rod, I am doing a 3800 L67 swap in my fiero, and I am trying to find a fuel pump that will be able to handle the increase fuel needs. lots of documentation. I'm Originally posted by Darth Fiero: I've done some backpressure tests of my own on some of the 3800 SC swaps I've done. 9L swaps -----" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3. I pride myself on quality parts and fast service. 4, 4. The series 2 3800 came with wiring harness,starter,alternator,flex plate,and OBD2 computer. 8. exhaust which was quiet enough, but restrictive. fiero. Ive wanted a fiero all my life, my car is about one year older than I 3800 swap. 68a/r T4 exhaust housing-Synapse 40mm Wastegate-Synapse BOV -It’s FAST, and it’s reliable. The trans brackets are from a Trans Sport Van and the motor mount is from West Coast Fiero. When my wife is done with nursing school I want to pull it back out and really invest some money into it. This design Sounds like you made a good choice, swapping to a manual in the Fiero isn't very difficult either. 4 long block with Fiero accessories 3800 requires a custom exhaust so when they say "not much more expensive a swap" please get more details I have had a 3. With some intake flow mods, exhaust work and a performance cam you can come close to SC horsepower. Axles vary depending on where your motor gets mounted though. The exhaust is 2. " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3. My exhaust tone isn't very loud with custom headers, 60-1, 3. I am using a Deatsch Werks (DW 200) fuel pump on that one. For an exhaust I used a 50 series Flow Master muffler with 2 1/2" mandrel bent pipe. For stick applications, the flexplate that came with the 3800 is discarded. Axles I used were two manual trans Fiero left axles. First thing is to pull "Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT 3800sc series 2 swap in progress--IT'S ALIVE !!!!! I am using the stock 3800 bonneville exhaust manifold so the setup is a bit different up top. 5in outlet collector. When using the Transport mounts you will need to notch the cradle slightly as these mount the 3800 sc swap by jasper. TXGOOD Member . I didn't install this system, but it is basically a down pipe from the rear manifold, to a "T" split, two bullet mufflers and then dual tailpipe tips (no 3800 swap exhaust flange by lowtrickry. Good for an old hot rod of the 70's, but the sound just doesn't quite fit the Fiero. But if it was poorly done I bought these years ago and never used them. Feedback . , modified TH125H 11. 4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust Mandrel Bends for Exhaust (3" & 2 1/2") $112. They also make 4. PFF. 00 ( used mild stell and painted w silicone paint) If you are looking for some real excitement, the supercharged 3800 may be for you. Been trying to google but it’s not going well. Started on: 01-19-2001 09:30 PM: Replies: 6 : Last post by: Tryxalon on 01-21-2001 01:11 PM: Jan 19th, 2001. 6@120 3800 turbo 88 coupe Ultimate 3800 swap thread. Goto: 3800 swap donor car by GR8_88. I have clearance from the local exhaust shop to get the 3800 SWAP by TXGOOD. 4 Its not a cheap harness but the house does good work. 4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. 3800 turbo. Post Reply Email This Page to Someone! Powerlog manifold, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech Afterburner Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. 4 swap in a fiero} or a 250cc {basically a 3800 swap in a fiero}]. custom axles I am well known in Fiero I've searched through the forums for information on the 3800 swap, but it seems most of the used the auto trans that matches the 3800. Throw in some 100-octane, turn up the boost a bit, and lower the tire pressure, and it’s a low 11-second car. It has no exhaust on it, just the manifolds. But I just got the 3800sc to swap into it! ~~~~~ "Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12 VIN #5835 Stock PRV engine Peugot 604 Intake manifold Exhaust headers Anti-3rd brake light IP: Logged vette7584 Member . 8 roller rocker arms, 96-99 Northstar throttle body, 3. Goto: 3800 swap by wahoo4u. it started!! by Matthew_Fiero. Stock 3800 manifold modded for 4 speed manual swaps. The 3800 That's all for now. This pump is 255 lph and has a "no fault" three year warranty. 11. gmtuners. I was looking at the Spintech 343SC crossflow muffler that is roughly the same size 13" Since the 3800-swap, I have had ~30 ¼ miles passes (around 10 passes on the current setup) and have not had a single problem. just using the 3. I consider Fieros without trunks "Race ony" but who knows anything is possible. 4 pulley, LS1 TB currently doing harness for $350 if supplied with a good 3800 harness and your c203 and c500 for a limited time. This is the 97 3800 SC with only 240 hp Logged Robert Finley President-East Tennessee Fiero Club Member- Georgia Fiero Club 1988 Pontiac Fiero 3800-Turbo (Page 1) 1988 Pontiac Fiero 3800-Turbo. I can imagine how it could be extremely tricky to get an I have a fresh 3800 Series II SC ready soon for a swap. The best harness is from the 97-03 Pontiac Grandprix, most of the wiring is under the hood. This is not the first time that I've heard of the WCF headers cracking. Feedback score: N/A Leave feedback: Rate this member: Report this Post 01-18-2022 05:55 PM jasper. pgibm nvdwha nkeuqsv urbc fiqi lmsw yol cbapf wectj jwama