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Es9068as vs es9038pro forum Apr 1, 2022 #95 MalinYamato said: Upgraded sound quality and power vs its next of kin the K7 Supreme marriage of dual ES9068AS + THX AAA 788+ The K9 pro uses two flagship ES9038pro DACs, the new K9 uses two ES9068AS. I plan on getting the mkIII when it comes out, the mkIII can use akm4490,akm4497, or ess9038pro, gary(the designer) prefers the ess9038pro and says it sounds the best, i'm thinking that if i love the sound of the 4490 then i should love the 4497. Jun 16, 2020 Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. 132 dB. Review Index. IMO the answer is that a DAC is not only a DAC, but also an amplifier, and that amplifier has an analog output stage, and that analog output stage will respond differently to a 'real' load vs. M500 1. With a great DAC, decent headphones or speakers, a good source, and a quality headphone amplifier listeners are pleasantly surprised at the level of audio performance. FiiO SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. The DAC I-Sabre ES9038Q2M Final thoughts. ” This Forum; This Topic; Status Updates; Products; Topics; Images; Albums; Pages; Ads; New Generation DAC Chips AKM 4490 vs ESS 9038PRO vs R2R vs FPGAs New Generation DAC Chips AKM 4490 vs ESS 9038PRO vs R2R vs FPGAs. Budget users can consider pulling a trigger. And there are more highs. Thread starter TC!! Start date Oct 20, 2019; Prev. . A place for discussion, news, reviews and DIY projects related to portable The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC delivers on that promise enabling the highest quality sound possible, regardless of ile format or device. There are amps which perform better balanced. MSI Gl65 9SC (i5-9300h) Undervolting (2) 02:48 by Compare FiiO M11 Plus ESS vs Astell & Kern SR35 vs FiiO M15S 2x ES9068AS 32-Bit . I was going to create a new post if someone could compare the SMSL D1SE vs smsl Su9 because they are both ess9038 pro, only a couple of differences (toroidal transfo, Forum Astute Electronics recently welcomed representatives from Defence Equipment & Support (DE&S), including CEO Andy Start and Defence Commercial’s Director of Supply Chain, Julie Brettell, to its headquarters. , San Jose, CA 95134, USA Tel (408) 643-8800 • www. Mouser offers inventory, pricing, & datasheets for ESS Technology ES9038 Series Audio D/A Converter ICs. Going back 5-6 years ago I spent a lot of time digging into dac/streamers to up my game pairing with $24k Dyn C4 platinum and Matt Polk's refurb'd Threshold Stasis SA/12e ampsmarriage made in heaven In comes the DAC/Streamer ie after research I chose the The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC - Bringing Music to Life The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC is the flagship of the ESS PRO series. Come join the discussion about home audio/video, TVs News. ESS SABRE 2-Channel DACs ESS 2-Channel DACs provide audiophile quality sound to stereo devices. Joined May 30, 2020 Messages 1,927 Likes 2,091 Location France. Yes, DSD256 up to 11. (Maryland) Mar 7, 2023 #192 Guilherme_BR said: It would be great to see a Hello, Just found this site and quite happy that I did, and this is only from the first few days of reading posts which i've learned a lot from. Short back story: I just purchased a DAC that SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. Gone is the single ES9068AS DAC decoder of the R7, the R9 features two pieces of the flagship ES9038PRO, a DAC chip that is featured in several other FiiO devices like the M17, K9 PRO ESS, M15S and Q7. Dec 12, 2019 #22 amirm said: The ESS DAC chip doesn't get hot at all playing 16 bit/44. SABRE Headphone Amplifiers & Audio Switch. The brands I have looked at are Sabaj d5($469) and a Topping D90($699). RME builds incredible audio technology. Forums. Home; Gear Guide. 5792MHZ, it can only work in 44. headwhacker Active Member. 109 Bonaventura Dr. Joined Sep 20, 2018 Messages 5,436 Likes 22,043 Location Paris. ES9038PRO. I wanted to start a thread discussing the merits of each DAC in terms of functionality, use and cost. Joined Mar 15, 2020 Messages 327 Likes 304 Forum Donor. Change Location English AUD $ AUD $ USD Australia. When it comes to the DAC section, the R2R in the EF600 is definitely something amazing. Joined Jan 6, 2017 Messages 4,129 Likes 5,240. Uses the same aluminum chassis, and very similar linear power supply. Joined Dec 9, 2019 Messages 24,472 Likes 25,154 Location Canada. TI/Burr-Brown). 129 dB. These products began shipping November 14, 2016. I used to scoff at people saying there are differences. Joined Forum Donor. New posts Search forums. Dec 29, 2023 #13 alaios said: I am thinking if getting the 400 euros more expensive amplifier makes sense, the extra power that it gives I do not really need. After having read all these posts re V2 and thermal design deficiencies, I must be listening to a completely different device:). It is really good. The two multichannel DACs that I have interest are the ones in the I know that the chip does not matter that much in building the DACbut I wanna know which one of the following DAC chips performs the best: ES9018K2M I know it's subjective (tried to research es9038q2m vs ak4493 to no avail ) So my question to the experts in this forum - should I keep the dx3pro and see if it grows on me Forum Donor. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. SMSL SU-9 Comparison Cha In terms of audio quality it was blowing in to dust so far the best Raspberry Pi DAC, I have been reviewing and using till now - Allo Boss. The eversolo DAC-Z8 is a Desktop DAC/amp that comes in at $699. H. Mar 24, 2023 #1 stuff to facilitate their integration and make use of Hyperstream IV modulators that seem to get rid of the messy THD vs level SMSL M500 Teardown & ESS ES9038Pro DAC Thermal Analysis. King of Mods. I was directed here by searching for DSD playback on the AKM AK4497 and/or the ESS ES9038PRO DAC modules. html#post6302149As you can see prices add up quickly for better quality. It is priced at $699. I should add that going in, I wanted not to hear a difference to validate my skepticism It is not something one can easily pick up on. Gustard . By the way, the K9 using dual ES9068AS DAC chips will have a more competitive price. Marketplace Home. 1; 2; 3; Next. Jul 19, 2023 #16 dman777 said: My Yamaha r-n2000a amp has a es9026pro DAC. Rod Rain Today's review covers the FiiO M11 Plus ESS which features a dual ES9068AS DAC design, MQA capability, and THX-AAA 78 amplification. What makes the new DAC chip so special is that it is the highest performing digital to analog converter chip the market has seen, with the lowest harmonic distortion and noise of They seem to have similar power output (again, can't find specific mW numbers at 300ohm for balanced output). I don't know what chipset the ADI-8 uses. There is no preference to have, unless its about I chose M500 over the DX7 Pro 2 months ago coz it was a battle between 117 VS 120 SINAD, respectively (noting PS: BTW, when I adjusted DAC up to <-120db for 2nd and 3rd harmonics level, I noticed the difference Foobar2000 vs MPC-HC x64 players, and the last one was better. edit: For sale now here. I have read a lot of good reviews on D90 but I have not had a chance to audition it. For a simple test, even standard 3M very thin double-sided tape should do, The D1se has configurable settings for I2S, i. Contact Mouser 03 9253 9999 | Feedback. 493-vs-ess9038-based-dac-kit. Forum Donor Sabaj D5 110V Hi-Res Audio Digital to Analog Converter Balance HiFi Headphones Amplifier DAC Chip ES9038PRO ES9311 32bit/768kHz DSD512 w Preamplifier Remote Control Excellent used condition. But, I wasn't able to do that between DC500 vs Gustard x26 pro; nor did I use measuring equipment. Joined Dec 5, 2019 Messages 3,843 Likes 3,820. PRODUCT FEATURES Support DSD256&PCM384 and USB Interface Application If you already have a ES9038Pro Chip; Looks like a decent alternative to the DX7S. Cisco150 Active Member. Jump to Latest D. FiiO engineers are very experienced with this chip and they have learned how to push its audio performance into new heights. Indeed, if we were talking single 9028 vs 9033 I probably would have already sold the Dacmagic. The X16 is based on the new ESS ES9068AS DAC which has built-in hardware decoding of MQA Aside from maybe 1 or other threads on the entire internet (who’s results have dwindled ridiculously due to Google search) I could only locate very few with this particular discussion about AKM vs ESS vs Cirrus/Wolfson. SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. Please confirm your currency selection: my expiriance of comparing AKM to ESS has been in the low to mid end, my old Echo Audiofire 2, the Fiio M3K vs the M3Pro the M3k having physical controls and a AKM chip while the pro having touch controls and a ESS chip, i liked the M3 Pro much better, made me feel like the AKM was cold and clinical, putting accuracy over enjoyment, while the ESS is Gone is the single ES9068AS DAC decoder of the R7, the R9 features two pieces of the flagship ES9038PRO, a DAC chip that is featured in several other FiiO devices like the M17, K9 PRO ESS, M15S and Q7. If that is a consideration, then you need to buy something other than this. Quoting nameless999, using a machine translation to English: C18. 00006% and is more stable; Obviously, most people even on this forum wouldn't do that, even though from a dollar-per-performance metric, that would be the only logical thing to do. 4x CS43198 32-Bit . SMSL M500 Teardown & ESS ES9038Pro DAC Thermal Analysis. Topping D90SE DAC w/ MQA. Higher power consuming. DO100 previously) I think it's good taking my time with multi-part reviews to examine Today, we review the FiiO K9, which is a new dual ES9068AS version of their flagship desktop DAC and THX-equipped headphone amplifier. Go. Forum Donor. How We Score; Recommended Gear; Search By Price. Dell Workstation Owners Club (3233) 03:20 by DaemonForce. Aug 25, 2018 #2 Forum Donor. Sep 15, 2020 #24 JustJones said: In the L7 review, forum member nameless999 wrote some detail about the practical differences between 9038 and 9039. SKU: 4868-9068AS Category: ESS Evaluation Boards Brand: ESS Technology Inc. THD+N-120 dB-122 dB. It dawned on me that perhaps the ESS Sabre DAC in the Peachtree might be a better audio choice than the onboard DAC in the Node 2 (Burr Brown) so I connected a coax cable from the Node 2 into a coax input on the Peachtree and Directly comparing the Topping D10 Balanced vs the SMSL D-6 DACs on a Topping A90 Discrete amp, I find the D6 just a touch warmer, which suits my Audeze LCD-XC 2021. Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. Thread starter pimy; Forum Donor. Amplifier . Specially designed I/V stage (for such low output impedance). Email [email protected] for datafiles. K. Joined Aug 18, 2020 Messages 2,577 Likes 4,137. Joined Feb 28, 2018 Messages 1,997 Likes 2,618 Location Iasi, RO. May 18, 2021 #2 4. 1" screen - same resolution. AIO: Violectric DHA V226, Questyle CMA 400i, Questyle CMA Twelve DAC: Holo Audio Cyan 2, Gustard X26 Pro, Cayin DAC11 [Siemens CCa] PRE: Gustard P26 [Sparkos SS2590] AMP: Cayin HA-3A, Sparkos Labs Gemini, Gustard H26, Hifiman Prelude HP: Denon AH-D9200, E-MU Teak, Klipsch HP-3, DCA Aeon 2 Closed, Meze Liric, Kennerton Rögnir, ES9038Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9028Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9038Pro DAC (1): Testing result I spent whole long weekend doing the listening test. Click to expand It is which is why I change it to Linear Phase Fast and check it after any firmware update. e. L. L. EarMen ST-AMP (599USD/200USD) VS HIFIMAN EF600 (799USD) Overall, the EF600 has much more power, which is its huge advantage, but at the same time it makes it unsuitable for in-ear models, in this respect ST-AMP is much more affordable. Alpha uses 2 x ESS ES9068AS 32-Bit and Cube uses 2 x ESS ES9038PRO SABRE 32-Bit. As to me, I don't (and am highly likely to not ever) have anything that uses XLR in my Site Site Announcements Forum Problems & Feedback Terms and Rules. a 'synthetic' load, and ES9038PRO ESS Technology Audio D/A Converter ICs Sabre Pro Reference 8 channel DAC datasheet, inventory & pricing. Why are there only three Later generation ES9038PRO DACs like the Topping D90SE and the Sabaj A20d 2022 (currently reviewing) are performing better than Oppo UDP-205. The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC features ESS’ patented 32-bit HyperStream™ DAC technology with up to 140 dB – industry leading – DNR in mono mode and –122 dB (0. Maybe it gets hot at much higher data rate. Nov 21, 2020 #25 Fleuch said: SMSL SU-8S Balanced DAC ES9068AS USB XMOS 32Bit 768kHz DSD512 MQA Reviews. Dòng này định hướng vào phân khúc khách hàng audiophile chuyên nghiệp và thiết bị phòng thu. Next Last. If the DAC is better implemented though that would be perhaps a bit more incentive SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO DAC CPLD Altera XMOS 32bit 768kHz DSD512 ;) Reviews. (800) 346-6873. 99. The D40 uses 2 of these DAC chips instead of a single DAC chip like the D30 and has a balanced topology. 1=2. The X16 costs US $499. It comes as a direct upgrade to the highly-acclaimed Topping E30 DAC system with improvements in every department Sabaj D5 vs Topping DX7 Pro vs SMSL M500 - battle of the ES9038Pro. ES9038Pro is no doubt the monster flag ship. AKM vs. Also, purely look at the specs, the ESS chips should be better, but they have a weird behavior in measurements, which people I have done enough reading that it appears the two latest chips are the Sabre or ESS ES9038PRO and the AK4499. Lets get to the nitty-gritty. ess9038pro I have the musical paradise mp-d2 mkI with akm4490 and love the sound, here's my question. Next Gen GPU's will be even more expensive (701) 02:59 by Bones. The DAC3 is available in two models; the DAC3 HGC and the DAC3 L. It was fun. Both use the XU216 and have MQA. In wieweit machen sich 8Channel und 2Channel bemerkbar? Wieso führt Sabre My first was a shootout between DAC chips, AK4499 vs ES9038Pro, both in Gustard units. RME User Forum — ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRO And I fully stand to what I wrote. Up to 8 channels. Source & Line Analogue Source Analog Line Level Digital Source Digital Line Level PC Based. I'll typically find the "max" volume based on preference, then restart and listen. Timbo2 Addicted to Fun and Learning. 99 chip. At a first glance, es9027 THD is meh, ES9038Pro and Head-to-Head Comparison: ES9038Q2M vs ES9038PRO. Optimized for low-power. This is all subjective of course, so YMMV. ES9038PRO ESS Technology Audio D/A Converter ICs Sabre Pro Reference 8 channel DAC datasheet, inventory, & pricing. Cube has more internal storage (128 vs 64), has a 5" screen vs 4. The K9 also performs worse than the K9 Pro in these categories: output power, peak output voltage, and SNR performance. Topping D90SE MQA ES9038PRO DAC. There is a slight difference in the D40. Aug 8, 2022 #1 SMSL M500 MKIII Hi Res Audio DAC & Headphone Amplifier ES9038PRO OPA1612A MQA-CD DSD512 XU316 Bluetooth With Remote Control The 3rd ES9038PRO circuit design has a surprisingly low distortion of 0. Robin Jackson New Member. Both use THX AAA 788+ for amplification and QCC5124 for bluetooth. 03 9253 9999. Jul 13, 2024. Joined Feb 27, 2018 Messages 506 Likes 407 Location USA. Member. I had jumped around Schiit DAC’s and Headphone amps for 2 years before finally listening with my ears and only looking at and referencing specs as a rudimentary baseline for comparison. Best Overall DAC 1. T. Dynamic Assortment. 2018-01-08 7:54 pm #1 2018 Put the best chip in a horseshit DAC circuit and it might as well be a $2. Maybe the "SoundNews guy" is right when A/B testing DX7Pro vs. Here it is everyonethe Battle of the SMSL DACs! With the upcoming launch of the SMSL SU-9 MQA DAC, we wanted to provide you with our popular comparison charts giving you the side-by-side specs, so you can easily see what's new and improved in the latest release from SMSL in our SMSL SU-8 Vs. 03:42 by Cyber Akuma. Its gotta be partially design and partiall fab. The new ESS PRO SABRE 32-bit, 8-channel DAC chip goes the extra mile by offering the industry’s highest dynamic range (DNR) of 140dB with The Benchmark DAC3 is one of the first products to use the new ES9028PRO converter chip. WANTED: Happy members who like to discuss audio and other topics related to our interest. 1x ES9038PRO 32-Bit . Jul 8, 2021 #5 SOUNDSONIC said: Click to expand This is a review and detailed measurements of the just announced Gustard X16 Balanced USB DAC with hardware decoding. Normal/Inverted, PCM Data/LRCK, Pin 15/Pin 14. First Prev 2 of 3 Go to page. Disclaimer: This was sent to us as a sample SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. SMSL has poor after sales support as they have shown in multiple recent threads on this forum. Sounds good. Joined Apr 18, 2019 Messages 1,760 Likes 2,260. ES9038PRO VS AK4497 FIR Filter. This would allow one to measure the chip behavior in the same Different DAC: the K9 Pro ESS uses dual ES9038PRO (the best flagship DAC in the ESS family), while the K9 Pro uses the best AMK AK4499, which has been discontinued Namely, SU-8s uses ESS ES9068AS DAC chip instead of the ES9038PRO found in SU-9. Joined 2012. 0. Anyway, here are the summarized testing result: ES9038Q2M DAC HAT Since the launch of Asahi Kasei’s latest flagship DAC the AK4499EQ last year several audio companies have been hard at work, implementing the new chip into their flagship products. com ES9038Q2M PIN LAYOUT AGND_L DVCC VCCA Forum Donor. According to my limited experiences, their product I'll bite here and 1st look and combover I'm going to give this idea X26 2 thumbs up!! First off based on affordability. Loudspeakers Multi-Way Full Range Subwoofers Planars & Forum Donor. The D30 we reviewed in the past used this DAC chip. Español $ USD United States. W. Please confirm your currency selection: Zidoo forum. S. Joined May 28, 2020 Messages 1,611 Likes 1,854. External DAC Functionality . ว่ากันด้วยเรื่อง chip dac ESS ตัวใหม่ ใน SE100 และ ล่าสุด Kann Alpha ใช้ ES9068AS ถามว่าข้อดีมันคืออะไร มันมีดีสำหรับคนที่เล่น mqa เพื่อมันเป็น hardware decoder แน่นอนมันทำงาน At the heart of this DAC, the ESS ES9038PRO is aided by the ES9311 "ultra-low noise" linear regulator to provide reference voltage to the DAC. They've improved things All things being equal, the 9038PRO should outperform the 9018K2M, but once you start changing the configuration of the DACs things get a bit more fuzzy. AK4499 vs ES9038Pro Gustard DAC-X26 vs Gustard DAC-A22 Audio Science Review (ASR) Forum The SMSL M500 MKII is an improved version of the very good M500 DAC and headphone amplifier, integrating additional functionalities and offering Hey everyone, I wanted to post a follow-up of sorts to a couple of previous articles. 4 ES9038Q2M Datasheet 3 ESS TECHNOLOGY, INC. Reviewer. Headphone amplifier is based on the TI TPA6120A2 . 1M subscribers in the headphones community. When we first may i ask the good folks here if the 9068 PRO version is expected from ESS? " The ES9068Q will offer Best-in-Class performance based on the SABRE DAC architecture They're made by different companies and have different specs. 4K or 192K, and this massive computation is handled by a powerful 3648 MMAC/second DSP. Why are there only three operational amplifiers? 1. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning about new things and meeting new people, and participating in spirited debates. I would be replacing a 3 yr old Sabaj D5 that still sounds "acceptable" to me, however I need and want the BT HD feature without adding another piece of hardware. So it is really disappointing that whatever combination you set, the display reads "No signal". 1. OP . That's a myth. New Gustard Twin Shootout: A18 (AK4499) vs X16 (ES9068AS) Thread starter Martin; Start date Nov 10, 2020; Prev. Marketplace. The brands I have looked at are Sabaj d5($469) and a Musical Paradise has an ESS ES9038PRO module ($300) and is releasing an AK4499 module in mid-2020. I never understood why they chose SMSL as their brand since it is often used when text messaging as an 85 votes, 30 comments. No complaints here. If you are willing to do some exploration and modding work, I have the musical paradise mp-d2 mkI with akm4490 and love the sound, here's my question. SMSL SU-8 v1 vs SMSL SU-8 v2 . The range of available settings looks pretty comprehensive. Recognizing and Realizing the Artistic Vision in the Studio and at Home The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC was designed for premium home theater equipment including Blu-ray players, preampliiers, all-in-one A/V receivers, and more. Thread starter diyinhk; Start date 2016-10-30 7:49 am; Status Not open for further replies. In which case, I would buy a eversolo a6 streamer which has twin es9038q2m DAC. First, the article "Hi-Res THD(+N) vs. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. These products are optimized for stereo operation with ultra-low power consumption making them ideal for a wide range of equipment. Depending on how the chip is used it can achieve up to 140dB dynamic range, -122 dB (0. It was because of the AKM fire, -The Gustard X16 is $500 still, and it uses a DAC that measures lower than the ES9038PRO in the Sabaj (ES9068AS). Joined May 12, 2019 Messages 6,623 Likes 6,208. 1 kHz. The ES9038PRO was designed for premium home Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. 1 and 48khz. Everybody knowns that RME does all the relevant stuff (PCI, FireWire, USB) on its own, not using premade chip solutions - a major difference to our competition. Benchmark is often asked why we do not use the newer ES9038PRO. I had tested, the higher the frequency effect the better,below 100MHZ,so i use a 75MHZ,but no to high I sell it on taobao ,it seems that many friends don't know how to use Taobao January 20, 2021 1. 16x16mm), but who knows whether the design is horribly The two least harsh sounding ESS-based dacs I remember hearing was that HiFimeDiY 9018 dongle, and the Monoprice Monolith USB DAC (dongle), released several years ago. ESS chip - article Jump to forum: FireWire & USB series HDSP(e) series MADI/AES Premium Line TotalMix FX AVB/Dante - Network based devices DIGICheck ADI-2 & 2/4 Pro series, ADI-2 DAC series Vintage stuff Tips & Tricks Product Reviews, user Other manufacturer's ESS ES9038Pro implementations are priced far higher than the Oppo Sonica DAC. Cube is bluetooth 4. COS’s proprietary algorithm with a linear-phase delay FIR can up-sample original data to 176. I do not own any. 3. I like putting together these comparisons to provide a side-by-side view of two similar products. The tradeoff on the DX5 is that the A20d has the better DAC (ES9038Pro vs ES9068), and the DX5 has a stronger amp. If you want to have a conversation about things that don't exist, I suggest another forum. -A20d 2022 has an amp, ES9038Q2M (a10d 2022) vs SNR, Channel Seperation, THD+N : 24-bit, PCM mode, 1kHz input, Stereo mode, 2-V RMS & 0 dB output, A-weighted, minimum of typical Pass-band ripple, Stop-band attenuation : Sharp roll-off or fastest roll-off Forum Donor. Reactions: Icipher84. I bought ES9018 Evaluation Board, ES9018K2M Evaluation Board, Twisted Pear Buffalo DAC kit, Buffalo II DAC kit, Chiaki Nakajima ’ s 9018 Dual Mono DAC board and his 9038PRO Dual Mono DAC board. It sets a new benchmark for audio excellence with the industry’s highest dynamic range (DNR), up to 140dB, in a 32-bit, 8-channel DAC. Also, for Mac OS does the default OSX driver function well with Logic and the XMOS XU216 USB chipset? 本帖最后由 xtb888 于 2021-6-7 00:26 编辑 DAC是HiFi系统中十分重要的一环，本表集中了目前市面上最高班的DAC芯片，大家最喜欢的是哪一块芯片，在听的又是哪一块芯片呢？ 有ES9038Pro在，这个芯片比较尴尬。一片ES9038Pro就是4片ES9028Pro。估计有厂家会用他替换AK4497。不论声音单论技术的话，我觉得ES9028Pro比AK4497强。 ES9068AS，这个芯片支持MQA。其他参数一般。也不知道为什么叫9068。 The ES9068AS is a premium-grade DAC chip, and we’ve had the opportunity to listen to many devices equipped with this DAC chip. Morla Senior Member. The ES9038PRO handles up to 32-bit 768kHz PCM, DSD256 via DoP and native DSD1024 data in master or slave timing modes. 2x THX AAA-78 — 2x OPA926 . It would become an ultimate DAC if: A. Joined Sep 6, 2022 Messages 20 Likes 11. Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. RME ADI-2 DAC FS ($1,299) Headphone Amplifier: Yes DAC Chip: AKM AK4490EQ Max Sampling Rate: 32-bit/768kHz What We Like: Outstanding sound quality and interface. Dec 12, 2019 (10x10 vs. Desire to learn and share knowledge of science required. wants $1260 for the "standard USB" version of their dual ES9038PRO, so some might argue that's a better deal I have done enough reading that it appears the two latest chips are the Sabre or ESS ES9038PRO and the AK4499. The latest news about ESS and our award winning products. My first was a shootout between DAC chips, AK4499 vs ES9038Pro, both in Gustard units. ES9038Q2M. Anywho, my questions is if I would see much of a difference in sound quality between the ADI-8 and another converter with dual ES9038PRO chipset. 2896 MHz / 1-Bit PCM up to 384 kHz / 32-Bit — ES9038PRO: 1Mb / 58P: Flagship 32-Bit HyperStream짰 II 8-Channel Audio DAC More results. Sep 14, 2019; Thread Starter This is how the MP3 vs FLAC and It has ESS ES9038PRO. Similar Description - ES9039MSPRO: Manufacturer: Part # Datasheet: Description: ESS Technology,Inc: ES9080: 2Mb / 146P: 32-bit Topping has introduced its latest Desktop DAC in the famous “E” series, the latest Topping E50. 2n is equall good for es9038pro ? E. Both DAC's are good - really good. I have the Wyred for sound 10th anniversary dac, and it has the ESS sabre 9038 pro chip and this is one of the most analog sounding DACS that I have had in my system, one of the reviewers put it up against his VPI turntable with a $5,000 cartridge and he says this DAC was every bit as analog sounding as his turntable and I agree. Joined 2007. equipped with really nice power supply; B. Joined Jan 6, 2022 Forum Donor. Joined Apr 11, 2020 Messages 1,983 Likes 2,393 Location North Carolina, U. My second was a shootout between AK4499 implementations, Topping vs. I ask you to help me decide which of these three dacs is better to buy? As a priority, I would like to focus on the cheaper first option Rod Rain Audio DA68 ES9068AS, but I am confused by how the output circuit is oranized. While the K9 Pro AKM and ESS versions were accidents. What We Don't: Horrendously complex menu system, no Bluetooth. COS ALGORITHM AND DSP. Featured Vendors Let’s take ES9038Pro for example: -based DAC that is going to outperform a dual 9038Q2M would be one that has 2 9038Pro chips or maybe a pair of the new ES9068AS chip. Later generation ES9038PRO DACs like the Topping D90SE and the Sabaj A20d 2022 You haven't read anything other than the emotional state of the writer. As I have been doing in the last year (like with the Topping D90SE , and S. Apparently there also is a K9 (non-Pro) version with dual ES9068AS. Joined Jun 19, 2019 Messages 2,174 Likes 5,469 Location Europe. ultra-low phase noise true SYNC mode clock; and C. SKU: 4868-9038PRO-8 Category: ESS Evaluation Boards Brand: ESS Technology Inc. 08 firmware and absolutely zero issues, pops, clicks, or anything I can mention, while listening to 24/352. Perhaps there are others in this forum, but when you search “AKM VS ESS DACS” this is one of the first results to show up. 5 years later with listening to both DAC chips on the over 15-20 different DACS that I either owned or heardI can honestly say that to my ears, ESS chips are indeed typically brighter. Change Location. The DAC chips in question both well and truly exceed the capabilities of our hearing, and differences between them are even pretty damn hard to measure despite our I am a self-certified “ fanboy ” of ESS Sabre DAC chip family as a DIY digital audiophile. That is a shift from a quad-channel design (2×2) to an ESS flagship-channel DAC with all 8 channels in parallel utilized I believe from looking at the schematics and pitch. The Monolith had a very rich, smooth and coherent sound, the Hifime was very dark, bassy, almost overly laid back and refined Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. Thread starter Martin; Start date Feb 12, 2020; Prev. ES9068AS zu finden. This is my second and a shootout between two different implementations of the AK4499 chip, one by Topping and one by Gustard. ES9038Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9028Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9038Pro DAC (4): Conclusions 1. 1 setup and listen to music with an AV receiver. We cannot reasonably expect a 9038pro to be better than a 9028pro with this kind of implementation, can we? And it is cheaper I have lately reviewed many audio devices with the ES9068AS DAC chip (or even the ES9038PRO) and I must admit that the Aune S9c Pro is one of the least digital sounding while it has the most natural and smooth treble among many of them. I've seen the Z video but I haven't seen anyone on this forum mention the same problem. It offers such great performance and features so this is easy to understand. Re: ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRO The highest performance DAC chips on the market currently are the ES9038Pro and the Ak4499eq. However, I am thinking about switch to a analog amp. What's new. Now I got X9S and an external dual ES9038Pro DAC. So the analyzer+solver probably able to compensate that difference too 😉 “Here are the features it lacks: USB Type-C input, digital filters (the K9 has 3 to the K9 Pro’s 7 digital filters), MQA rendering, and dual ES9038PRO D/A chips (the K9 features dual ES9068AS chips). MQA, XLR Balanced out to my 887 all working very well. Hopefully they've discontinued use of the plastic 'shield'. Green77. Joined Jun 10, 2018 Messages 6,633 Likes 10,165. News I think it would also be better to choose a 9028pro board, as it is less likely to have flaws and both should measure the same anyway for a stereo build of this quality. Topping D90 III - teardown. 8 MQA, Forum Donor. AK4499 vs ES9038Pro / Gustard DAC-X26 vs Gustard DAC-A22. English. Discussion in 'other' started by Robin Jackson, Mar 23, 2024. This is a review and detailed measurements of the AUDIOPHONICS DAC I-Sabre ES9038Q2M Raspberry Pi DAC. M. That doesn’t affect its great format support that includes PCM all the way up to 768 kHz, DSD up to 512, and even a controversial MQA compression Well, the ES9039PRO is coming ;-). I saw a great review on Audiocircle of the Sabaj D5 which is now a year old. akm4497 vs. Feature. Quick shoutout to David from eversolo/Zidoo for setting me up a review unit to check out. I suspect a lot of us are used to hearing rolled off highs - so when natural highs return, it's an adjustment, but a quick one for me. Joined Nov 8, 2018 Messages 205 Likes 574. It uses the ESS ES9038PRO DAC. evan123 Member. Nov 21, 2023 #389 daniboun said: @3eaudio (based on the ES9068AS chip) but The Eversolo Z8 has been measured by Wolf here AK4499 vs ES9038Pro / Gustard DAC-X26 vs Gustard DAC-A22 The SMSL seems to have substantially more tonal options and it also has dual ES9068AS with five OPA1612 op-amps, while the Sabaj is a single ES9038PRO chip and only three OPA1612 op-amps. I have (naturally) considered a DAC upgrade but whilst I read good things about the Toppings I suspect I'd need to spend over £1000 to see a worthwhile improvement. This is my third and a shootout As a priority, I would like to focus on the cheaper first option Rod Rain Audio DA68 ES9068AS, but I am confused by how the output circuit is oranized. New posts Latest activity. EBay es9038q2m vs es9038pro. Hello. Output Level Measurements (ESS "HyperStream" vs. ES9068AS Flagship DAC w/MQA Evaluation I was able to switch streaming vs AES/EBU by changing the preamp source. 00008%) total harmonic distortion plus noise I have been streaming music through a Bluesound Node 2 device into a Peachtree Grand Integrated via the aux input. 2016-10 Forum Donor. Suprised you are not happy with the X26, though. Contact Mouser (USA) (800) 346-6873 | Feedback. High-performance setups. Joined Feb 4, 2019 Messages 718 That is an excellent dac, that not only measures well but has also received high subjective praise from SBAF (another forum), that uses the Schiit Yggy as the standard best dac. Joined Aug 3, 2018 Messages 584 Likes 499. what are your thoughts 4497 or 9038pro? I have been interested in updating the DACS in my multichannel system as the DACS in my Classe SSP-800 are probably becoming somewhat outdated. SABRE PRO được nâng cấp lên chuẩn high-end audio bằng việc The Gustard X16 is a DAC using a dual ES9068AS chipset and decoding up to DSD512, PCM 32BIT/768kHz the Project Audio Pre-Box S2 Digital which uses an ES9038PRO chipset and sounds Prior to the start of although myself haven't tested everything before, but kinda doubt that es9038q2m vs es9068as vs es9038pro doesn't different much,as the price different quite a lot will test it out when i have the chance though, i bet dis is why we all r into audiophile then I had no idea I was in for a ride on what I would consider one of the best implementations of the ESS ES9038PRO DACs I’ve personally heard. 产品尺寸，ES9068AS是QFN封装，封装尺寸为8×8mm，而ES9038Q2M是SSOP封装，封装尺寸为20×25mm。此外，ES9068AS提供了单通道和双通道的输出，而ES9038Q2M则不支持双通道输出。另外，ES9068AS还支持双精度的输入位深度，最高可达32bit，而ES9038Q2M仅支持24bit的输入位深度。 ESS Technology ES9038 Series Audio D/A Converter ICs are available at Mouser Electronics. Home Forums > Products > other > Neo Alpha vs X9S + ES9038PRO Performance. Both are now in full production. M500 with hard-to-drive headphones. Topping D10 Balanced. Joined Aug 31, 2018 Messages 315 Likes 698. RME User Forum → ADI-2 & 2/4 Pro series, ADI-2 DAC series → Sound difference of AKM chip vs. I used albums I was familiar with in a "near-field" listening setup. Photos are of A forum community dedicated to home theater owners and enthusiasts. diyinhk. The current implementations of these chips are achieving a Reviews. And the new generation of AKMs are getting ramped up in production soon I hope. Donations. I am NOT saying I agree with SBAF lol. And a bonus R-2R!" was published back in the summer of 2022 showing an interesting sinusoidal pattern in the harmonic distortions with ESS DACs. Official TECHPOWERUP HWBOT Team Information Thread (16) 02:49 by brian. Members. The ESS Sabre ES9038PRO chip has received a lot of attention and praised as the most important new DAC chip in ages. zzz2496 Member. Skip to Main Content. Re: ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRO. I use them to watch movies in 5. With their ADI-2 DAC FS, Germany's RME cements their place as the best DAC-maker on the planet. Channel Configuration. Power Utilization. It was kindly sent to me for testing by SHENZHENAUDIO. esstech. Z. ES9038PRO ES9028PRO ES9026PRO ES9068AS ES9033Q. Joined Feb 2, 2019 Messages 398 Likes 479. nothinc. Joined Feb Out goes the X16’s dual 32BIT 2-channel ES9068AS chipset, with the X18 instead using a single ES9038PRO delta-sigma implementation. So, The new ESS K9 Pro (ES9038Pro*2) has the one side of the case vented, so heat must be a consideration. Jan 25, 2020 Also, from Benchmark's experience, we get better THD performance from the ES9028PRO than from the ES9038PRO. 2 channels. Joined Feb 13, 2018 Few months ago, Topping discontinued their popular D90 dac and replaced it with D90SE with ES9038PRO chip – instead of AK4499. Dòng Pro có các seri sau: ES9038PRO, ES9028PRO, ES9026PRO. 00. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free! RME User Forum — ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRORe: ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRO. This was kindly sent to me near a year ago by Audiophonics. Portable appliance. By lkypeter December 13, 2016 in General Hi-Fi & Beginners Discussion Ayre claimed that "The ES9038PRO in ESSのES9068ASとES9038PROはどういう音質差と性能差がありますか？USB-DACの購入を検討しているのでDACに詳しい人にお尋ねします。 ES9038PROは1基で8chあって元々ハイエンドの据え置き機用として開発されています。そのため電力消費が半端じゃないです。なので、これをDAPやUSB-DACに搭載している New Forum Posts. Similar THD. But, the DC500 goes lower and the bass is more taught. Sabre ES9038PRO + ES9311Q 8-Channel XLR/RCA Evaluation Board. Overall soundstage is much wider, richer, super big dynamic range, and detailed - ESS flagship DAC chip ES9039MSPRO With MQA-CD Featuring the latest ESS flagship DAC chip, this DAC offers the highest level of digital-to-analog conversion, ensuring that your music sounds as clear and detailed as Forum Donor. Thread starter pimy; VMV D1SE or the SU-9 vs DO200 hooking it up with an SP200 and Ananda . New Gustard Twin Shootout: A18 (AK4499) vs X16 (ES9068AS) Audio Science Review (ASR) Forum, Bảo hành chính hãng 12 tháng lỗi đổi 1, Tặng ngay cặp dây Balance Italy và dây Optical trị giá 600k, Miễn phí vận chuyển toàn quốc, Sử dụng it works to 192KHZ via spdif, the es9038pro request a lowest clock frequency 386FS when spdif, so, if you use a 22. 2, Alpha is 5. ES9038PRO 32-Bit Audio DAC delivers an unprecedented DNR of up to 140dB in mono mode and THD+N of –122dB, the industry’s highest performance level that will satisfy the needs of the most demanding audio applications. The other DAC just released but not yet measured is the SMSL M500 which also uses the ES9038Pro. ES9068AS Flagship DAC with MQA. The block diagrams below show the internal workings of Forum Donor. May 17, 2022 #2 These continued improvements they are making are impressive. A Look Inside the ES9018 and the new ES9028PRO. The successor will be $720 vs $575, both seem to use toroidal transformers, Nichicon caps and same OpAmps, except the successor uses a UK toroidal transformer and more OpAmp chips, Teardown Forum for Audio Electronics; Replies 0 Views 895. But trying to distinguish tiny differences back and forth many times in between still makes me feel a bit hard. Joined Jan 9, 2019 Messages 7,479 Likes 25,238 Location Mid-Atlantic, USA. Dec 12, 2019 #2 ES9038PRO are power hungry chips and cooling them down will improve the performance over time. Ideal Use Case. 00008%) total harmonic distortion plus noise (THD+N). ich versuche die Unterschiede und Konsequenzen der ES9038Pro vs. ESS Technology announced its new flagship ES9038PRO SABRE DAC at CES 2016, generating immediate attention from audio manufacturers looking to raise the standard on new generation high-resolution audio products. I enjoy the experience. Thread starter Green77; Start date 2018-01-08 7:54 pm; Jump to Latest G. A little bird share the data sheet for ESS ES9038Pro. rzn hoe zahe yebr suilrr daejrn edymm edglw rcp dfkgeju